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PokerStars Game #44664059446: Tournament #313011043, $300+$20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/05/27 2:13:18 WET [2010/05/26 21:13:18 ET]
Table '313011043 6' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: YouGoBroke (2743 in chips)
Seat 2: HHHUGO (3210 in chips)
Seat 3: Cottonbud07 (2940 in chips)
Seat 4: melano26 (2970 in chips)
Seat 5: Johnster (3309 in chips)
Seat 6: wpt-nuts (3010 in chips)
Seat 7: Princesa (3408 in chips)
Seat 8: Machiavilian (2595 in chips)
Seat 9: WushuTM (2970 in chips)
HHHUGO: posts small blind 10
Cottonbud07: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cottonbud07 [Ac  Aspades]
melano26: raises 40 to 60
Johnster: folds
wpt-nuts: folds
Princesa: folds
Machiavilian: calls 60
WushuTM: folds
YouGoBroke: folds
HHHUGO: folds
Cottonbud07: raises 160 to 220
melano26: calls 160
Machiavilian: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9h Kc]
Cottonbud07: checks
melano26: bets 350
Cottonbud07: calls 350
*** TURN *** [Tc 9h Kc] [3h]
Cottonbud07: checks
melano26: bets 900
Cottonbud07: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9h Kc 3h] [3s]
Cottonbud07: checks
melano26: bets 1500 and is all-in

No history with opponent. Is this a fold?

Very easy call imo.

i cbet flop yo

i c-bet flop but as played i call river faster than the camel

awesome turn and river for you, I call.

And yeah as already mentioned, CB flop

Just to explain reasons I don't c-bet the flop...

I'm not really happy getting it in on this flop in the 1st blind level. I want to disguise my hand.

My thoughts are pretty much this.. my hand is so under-repped how can I possibly fold. I'm losing to like 3 hands 10-10/9-9/K-K and he could easily shove AK/KQ on the river to try and get me to hero with QQ/JJ as that's what my hand looks exactly like.

If he shoves KQ and AK on the river why wouldn't he do it on the flop?

James, if you want to disguise your hand then reraising an UTG raiser in the first level of the tournament is not the best way to do this.  ;)

The more I think about this hand, the more I like the way the OP has played it.

It really does look like QQ or JJ.

Please don't ruin it by folding the river.

I really like the way the hand was played. I would call here. You may only be chopping it though. :)

flat pre then

I think if he is any good he will just flat these type of hands on the flop and raise everything that has us beat. Although he may flat sets too I'm not sure how he plays.

I could flat pre not a bad idea. But then I've seen guys get in AK and QQ in the 1st level of comps like this so I wanted to give them the chance to do it again :-).

I did call and pretty quickly.

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PokerStars Game #44664059446: Tournament #313011043, $300+$20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2010/05/27 2:13:18 WET [2010/05/26 21:13:18 ET]
Table '313011043 6' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: YouGoBroke (2743 in chips)
Seat 2: HHHUGO (3210 in chips)
Seat 3: Cottonbud07 (2940 in chips)
Seat 4: melano26 (2970 in chips)
Seat 5: Johnster (3309 in chips)
Seat 6: wpt-nuts (3010 in chips)
Seat 7: Princesa (3408 in chips)
Seat 8: Machiavilian (2595 in chips)
Seat 9: WushuTM (2970 in chips)
HHHUGO: posts small blind 10
Cottonbud07: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cottonbud07 [Ac  Aspades]
melano26: raises 40 to 60
Johnster: folds
wpt-nuts: folds
Princesa: folds
Machiavilian: calls 60
WushuTM: folds
YouGoBroke: folds
HHHUGO: folds
Cottonbud07: raises 160 to 220
melano26: calls 160
Machiavilian: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9h Kc]
Cottonbud07: checks
melano26: bets 350
Cottonbud07: calls 350
*** TURN *** [Tc 9h Kc] [3h]
Cottonbud07: checks
melano26: bets 900
Cottonbud07: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9h Kc 3h] [3s]
Cottonbud07: checks
melano26: bets 1500 and is all-in
Cottonbud07: calls 1470 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (30) returned to melano26
*** SHOW DOWN ***
melano26: shows [Ks Kh] (a full house, Kings full of Threes)
Cottonbud07: shows [Ac  Aspades] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
melano26 collected 5950 from pot
Cottonbud07 finished the tournament in 627th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5950 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 9h Kc 3h 3s]
Seat 1: YouGoBroke (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: HHHUGO (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Cottonbud07 (big blind) showed [Ac  Aspades] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 4: melano26 showed [Ks Kh] and won (5950) with a full house, Kings full of Threes
Seat 5: Johnster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: wpt-nuts folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Princesa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Machiavilian folded before Flop
Seat 9: WushuTM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
I guess villain played his hand well and we sorta got owned. But thinking about it if this is an average Joe type player is he really gonna go for 3 streets of value with just one pair. I find alot of players shut down on the river thinking we won't call worse or they just get a bit scared that they might be beat. Even though my hand looks like Queens or Jacks does he really show up with AK and KQ that often?

3bet to 300-350 pre, cbet/fold flop. as played call river. feels like ur making hard work of it this way imo

Dont like 2 do it but goin to have to agree wt the kid !

i actually don't mind the passive line here representing QQ/JJ

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this.... i make it like 280 pre

I play it the same post