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Title: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: pleno1 on May 29, 2010, 09:26:38 PM
Live tournie, blinds are 100/200, I have 35k, average is like 8200 and villain has 17/18k.

Villain is a rich businessman, talking about recent business trips to Dubai, New York and Norway. He is wearing carky three quarters/polo tucked in, white socks and sandals.

My image is very very loose, I've 4bet shoved 3 times in the first 2 levels. Since we came back from break (5 hands) I've opened every hand cbetting and taking it on 3 occasion, 4betting once, other time  was the previous hand against same villain.

Previous hand we had got it all in with 66vhis AKss and he had doubled up. In this hand I had raised to 400, he had 3bet to 1000 and we got it all in on a 752ss flop and he hit a flush on the river.

In this hand I raise from utg+1 w/  Ahrt Qh to 500, villain raises from sb to 2500 and we flat.

Flop is  Jh Td 2s. He looks at board and checks, I check behind. Turn is  8h and he bets 5000 quickly. I call.

River is  7c and he thinks for about 2/3 seconds and Jams for 8300.

Whilst I'm tanking I ask if he will show and he sais yeh definitely. He is shaking a little bit and keeps eye contact with me for the whole 2 minutes +.

Not sure whether to give my own rationale, but my thinking was that he didn't have many 9's in his range that would 3bet pre and then check the flop and 5k pot bet the turn. If he had a set/2 pair I thought he'd at least think about checking. I am are I beat very few hands here, and most hands he is bluffing with are beating me too.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: GreekStein on May 29, 2010, 09:42:31 PM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: NigDawG on May 29, 2010, 10:02:57 PM
don't like it. i mean you don't even beat many of his bluffs....

i'd probs just jam turn


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: pleno1 on May 29, 2010, 10:16:28 PM
don't like it. i mean you don't even beat many of his bluffs....

i'd probs just jam turn

yeh i wanted to. thought i would fold out all his air and just called by slowplayed sets. i guess the pot is big enough though. thought if i just call and call any river then would be better as I have 8 outs to nut straights and 10 for nut flush (taking away cards he has)


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: piestack on May 29, 2010, 10:21:06 PM
He is wearing ... socks and sandals.

Thoughts?

reading into that, he's either a tard or a genius. either way, i would probably fold and just stare in dismay at his footwear dress sense. maybe even compliment him on it as a bluff.


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: NigDawG on May 29, 2010, 10:55:38 PM
don't like it. i mean you don't even beat many of his bluffs....

i'd probs just jam turn

yeh i wanted to. thought i would fold out all his air and just called by slowplayed sets. i guess the pot is big enough though. thought if i just call and call any river then would be better as I have 8 outs to nut straights and 10 for nut flush (taking away cards he has)

meh it's not like you have enormous showdown value on unimproved rivers


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: Skgv on May 29, 2010, 11:56:01 PM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand
You have to stop this ranting about live players being retarded! An play the game  ==your fiiing game ! ;)
P.s I get personally offended by this...........................


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: Skgv on May 30, 2010, 12:02:10 AM
don't like it. i mean you don't even beat many of his bluffs....

i'd probs just jam turn

yeh i wanted to. thought i would fold out all his air and just called by slowplayed sets. i guess the pot is big enough though. thought if i just call and call any river then would be better as I have 8 outs to nut straights and 10 for nut flush (taking away cards he has)
Going to be brave an say flating pre flop was bad but flatting turn was stupendous! hows that for english literacy from the newly skilled typist! Soz back to point basically pre is not terrible i guess? But in both cases i would prefer raise or pass....... not FALTTING out of postion.


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: GreekStein on May 30, 2010, 12:06:08 AM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand
You have to stop this ranting about live players being retarded! An play the game  ==your fiiing game ! ;)
P.s I get personally offended by this...........................

Pete no offence but no I wont stop saying it. I'm no more of an online player than a live player but fact of the matter is there are a hell of a lot more bad live players willing to play stakes that very few bad online players play.

Just because you're one of the few who are good it doesn't mean that most aren't really bad.


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: NigDawG on May 30, 2010, 12:11:05 AM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand
You have to stop this ranting about live players being retarded! An play the game  ==your fiiing game ! ;)
P.s I get personally offended by this...........................

Pete no offence but no I wont stop saying it. I'm no more of an online player than a live player but fact of the matter is there are a hell of a lot more bad live players willing to play stakes that very few bad online players play.

Just because you're one of the few who are good it doesn't mean that most aren't really bad.

LOL


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: pleno1 on May 30, 2010, 12:15:17 AM
im i position, he 3bt from sb


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: Skgv on May 30, 2010, 12:20:28 AM
im i position, he 3bt from sb
soz m8 ! Just need to improve my reading skills! ok in that case pre is forgiven but turn im wt the nigdawh=g!


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: Skgv on May 30, 2010, 12:21:20 AM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand
You have to stop this ranting about live players being retarded! An play the game  ==your fiiing game ! ;)
P.s I get personally offended by this...........................

Pete no offence but no I wont stop saying it. I'm no more of an online player than a live player but fact of the matter is there are a hell of a lot more bad live players willing to play stakes that very few bad online players play.

Just because you're one of the few who are good it doesn't mean that most aren't really bad.

LOL


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: Skgv on May 30, 2010, 12:23:21 AM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand
You have to stop this ranting about live players being retarded! An play the game  ==your fiiing game ! ;)
P.s I get personally offended by this...........................

Pete no offence but no I wont stop saying it. I'm no more of an online player than a live player but fact of the matter is there are a hell of a lot more bad live players willing to play stakes that very few bad online players play.

Just because you're one of the few who are good it doesn't mean that most aren't really bad.
LOl u funny guy ! get a sense of homour dunmfuck!!!!rofl obv got u on tilt...............boo hoo.........GAME SET AN MATCH I DTHINK! x p.S DEAL WT BRAMMER LATER


Title: Re: There are very few possible hands I beat, but I want to be a hero.
Post by: GreekStein on May 30, 2010, 01:48:35 AM
meh if he was bluffing I'd expect him to bet the flop.

Doesn't look like he has enough to bluff you with a half pot bet on the river.

KQ is the only real bluff hand and again I'd expect him to bet the flop but live players take retarded lines and he was possibly expecting to c-raise you with that hand
You have to stop this ranting about live players being retarded! An play the game  ==your fiiing game ! ;)
P.s I get personally offended by this...........................

Pete no offence but no I wont stop saying it. I'm no more of an online player than a live player but fact of the matter is there are a hell of a lot more bad live players willing to play stakes that very few bad online players play.

Just because you're one of the few who are good it doesn't mean that most aren't really bad.
LOl u funny guy ! get a sense of homour dunmfuck!!!!rofl obv got u on tilt...............boo hoo.........GAME SET AN MATCH I DTHINK! x p.S DEAL WT BRAMMER LATER

lol [  ] on tilt.

[ x ] live players generally tez.

[ x ] Big Charra ITT!

[  ] He beats girls