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England -1 is 4/5. I took some 17/20 before the team was announced but getting involved again today. Japan really aren't a good team and not been impressive in their pre world cup games. Mexico probably alot stronger and we were poor and still managed to win by 2.
We've got the Chelsea players back mixed in with a few players that need to impress to make the 23.
-2 is 11/5 in places i think and i wouldn't put anybody of that i think it could be 4-0.
I've lumped on -1 and had Bent 5-0 for a bit of fun.

[X] GL
[  ] I hope you do your bollocks

Sumbody please crock ledley king! Kthnx

ps this is for the good of the nation!!

Ridic comment.

sigh he's not starting! What a shame!!

Hi mate you're obviously looking at boyles prices.

Although i kinda agree that england should win by the odd goal, -1@4/5 isn't the great bet it sounded to me. What that actually is is england-1.5. The reason for that is that it's a 3 way market which means if england win by 1 you still lose, if it was -1 and england won by 1 you'd get your cash back, and 4/5 on this price is huge value. The same is true with the -2 market they use. It just dresses up the market nicely for them and makes it look better than it is, cheeky wording by the books again.

The bet for me might be england -1.25 @1.62, because then if england only win by 1 i'll only lose half my stake, i always like an out if possible, and it's always gotta be value, that's with 365.

Not really a working man's price i guess though. and i'll prob try find something a bit juicier.

Ok done my losin...i mean bets.

England 3-0@8-1, 3-1@14-1, 4-1@20-1, 5-0@28-1.

Theo walcott fgs@14-1, glen johnson fgs@35-1&anytime@14-1.

Im sure afterwards i'll just go, y o y didn't i just stick with england -1.25, oh well aftertiming already! :)

Well I was taking in by the wording on Ladbrokes...

'You win at 1.94 if England win with a goal difference of two or more....'

Come on England..

Damn, a little bit  ;booder; so far...............

3 goal frenzy from England 2nd half????

yep! Bit of a 'yawn' game for me!

Lol good first half England ya shower of shite

[ ] great pen lampard u shit hole!

What? That was a great save...........

Why doesnt are best player take the pens? strange that!

the penalty was not even an arms length away from the keeper. Guess the right way and hes got it. What an absolute pile of shit. Japan 1 England 0 are you fucking kidding me.

Cos Joe Hart can't get back quick enough

it was a good save but still a poor pen IMO!

yea Rooney to take nxt one for me!!

18 minutes... 2 goals?

Joe Cole has changed things

OOONNEEE TIMMMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMMMMMMMEEEEE ONNNNNN!

Anyone got 2-1 with japan to score all 3 goals :D

Cheers Heskey!

yea all of the jap team obv!


ul stribs! Just the man u want a sitter to fall to in the 6 yard box lol

not scored a goal for club or country for months!! What a joke!

HA HA Good old Emile saving his goals for the World Cup

This game has certainly added a lot of weight to the theory that Gerrard is Englands most important player.

The good news going forward is that they won't play any worse than that at the WC...........

[ ] deserves to go to WC

Are you a glass half empty person by chance rotflmfao

Shut up Joe Cole

give me one good reason why emile heskey deserves to go to the world cup?

For once i agree with girgy, Heskey is absolutely terrible

I didn't say he should........

Because he is the only qualified pilot in the England squad, so if both of the pilots get food poisoning and become unconscious on the way to S Africa Emile could step and save the day

But why does he have to be in the 23 man squad? Couldnt they just take him as a 3rd pilot instead?

Heskey has never been a natural goalscorer, I have been watching him since an 18 year old and he just is not. What he is is a physical presence that makes flair players around him play better. Rooney and Owen notably for England. Back for Leicester under O'Neill he prolonged Tony Cottee's career for two years as he scored a shed load up top alongside Heskey. We then got a great price for him, £11m from Houllier/Liverpool and he was never going to meet those expectations, since when he has contributed at Birmingham, Wigan and Villa

Now I would be the first to coincede that if he makes the 23 it will because there are a lack of alternatives at "target man" but I would contend this reflects worse on the ability of Darren Bent, Carlton Cole and others who will not be picked than it does Heskey who will do a job in certain matches should Capello want a presence up top for 60 minutes or so

Whats Peter Crouch? and he does score goals!

Yes, but you have to take more than one big guy right? What happens if Crouch goes down?...you just have the little uns....

4-5 strikers....Rooney, Crouch, Defoe, Heskey all bases covered. Bent just isn't good enough either

spose he's ok to bring on as a different option or if Crouch goes down etc

Yeah I mean, what other striking option would you put in the squad?

Bent? Cole?  Not great is it?

Cant believe Bobby Zamora got over looked! Found a bit of form this season.

Injured?

Not quite good enough either IMO. Scored no goals at all season after season until this as well

People so easily concentrate just on goals with strikers like heskey.

Those players such as rooney love playing with this type of partner up front, he does all the donkey work and assists in other areas than goals.

It's like poker with those that are results orientated, just because some1 has a couple of big results doesn't mean they are a great player.

And just because darren bent has scored 25 goals odd dsnt make him world class.

Emile heskey has been doing his job for years and years, every striker he ever plays with raves about how great it is to play alongside such an unselfish player.

Look im not the biggest fan, i just get annoyed by ill informed vague statements like 'heskey is crap etc..'

I actually backed bent@7-2 to make the final 23, dsnt mean i think he will/should do, just thought he was value to do so.

Tightys right,heskey deserves to go

you've been on the booze so ur judgements been affected!! ;)

Nico i dont know whether your a absolute legend or a complete clown. Eurovision "trading", every Irish horse race you can shake a stick at and now betting on players to make World Cup squads.

I thought i was bad but is there actually anything you don't bet on?

Who are you on for Britains Got Talent this week?

Watch any England u'd be lying if u said he played bad,but ur clueless anyway :)

I'll give anyone 7-2 on Bent making WC

hahaha BH, you cant speak we had the absolute world on a Chile/mexico double

Heskey and Crouch are completely different players. Crouch isn't a target man he just happens to be tall. He's actually a decent footballer but is labelled a target man. Heskey puts himself about and creates space for Wazza but Crouch likes to come short and collect the ball into feet. Both should go but having Crouch doesn't mean we don't need Heskey.
If we don't got 451 (which we should) i'd still start Heskey with Rooney and leave Crouch as an impact sub if we need a goal.

Not much i don't bet on nope. Having said that BGT is about the only thing I don't watch.

I used to make the absolute lot on eurovision, nowadays i can't seem to 'trade' for toffee.

That bent bet looks bad now tbh, but i did it a couple of weeks back when one bookie was way out of line with other firms.

Doubt i'd take less than 5/6/1 on him making the squad now, a diff peformance against japan and i'd have been happy with my 7/2.

I'd like to say i'm a legend, but the clown tag might be more fair when you consider everything.

Still believe there is nothing wrong with backing in every mickey mouse race possible if it's a dirty ew though.

if crouch does play and gets injured it'll be gerrard/rooney as front 2 imo.