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a US Jewish sponsored forum with anti Israeli posts deleted?

Why would anyone want to posts anti-Israeli (or anti-anyone else) stuff on a poker forum anyway............

No but on such a sensitive subject with strong entrenched views on both sides you will have to post in a less inflammatory manner to avoid such deletions

Was only a post motivated by current events and its view probably supported by 95% of the world

Express things more moderately then.

OK, how would one think of the operation by the Israeli state against the charitable boat that was trying to deliver aid to the downtrodden folk of Gaza?

But hey, those murderous folk had knives so we had to shoot them (not that we had any right to be on the boat in the first place!).

Imagine if the boot was on the other foot, some heavily armed invaderers on an Israeli ship, the knife wielding defenders would have ben seen as heros in the Zionist world

LOL - no country who isn't directly funding Israel thinks this is anything other than an outrage.

But nothing will happen - the UN Security Council will table a motion condemning it, the US will veto it and everything will carry on as normal.

I think you missed this.

Thank you Andrew

Crippin before I delete your post please listen to what I am asking. No inflammatory language please. I understand its an emotive subject that you feel strongly about. However this is not the place to have incendiary discussions likely to annoy some posters

I've moderated Israel-Palestine stuff on here for 5 years, I know what happens

thank you   

Does Obama have the balls to cut the billions they give them in aid though :)

Maybe fake, maybe not. Looks real enough. Most definitely propaganda, but these guys don't look like peaceful aid workers to me

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

comedy footage

soldiers going in without guns and just taking the hiding

[  ] yup

Looking at sky news footage, the footage above is real

Don't get it...heavily armed commandoes attack a ship defended by legally occupied aid workers who have only knives to look after themselves and murder them. Why don't the Yanks arrest them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_%E2%80%93_United_States_relations

Why didn't the aid workers just get on there knees and say do what you need to do then take it up with the UN after.

The aid workers mobbed the comandoes and hit them with bars, chairs etc. If you do that to people with guns theres only going to be one outcome

So we should all bow down to those better armed

Not all of us, but these guys should have, and then taken the correct legal path.

What did they think would happen if they attacked armed soldiers, just common sense

In international waters you advocate submitting to what are legally pirates & hoping the UN will help? (To Linux obv).

The descendants of victims again being the oppressors  :( , but to criticise is an affront to their ancestors.....

The loss of life is obvoiously sad but i think i agree with Linux.

From the bbc articlae

They were warned they wouldn't be able to pass. They went anyway. They were boarded and started to beat the soldiers. I have to admit if i'm getting beaten by a crowd of people and i'm fearing for my life and i've got a gun on me i'm probably going to use it. Not saying thats exactly how it went down but i can see how the soldiers decided to open fire and yes if somebody has a gun and you have a stick don't start a fight.

Well unless you want to die yes :-X

I get bored about hearing about this israeli/palestine shit on the telly and completely switch off when it comes on. What pisses me off is you never hear an impartial objective view, it was the same bollocks when it was kicking off in Northern Ireland, couldn't be arsed listening to any of that bollocks either.........

They have a government that can be held accountable, its not like they were some rogue Somali pirates who have no one to answer to

I just wondered. I mean I need to go to bed. Been a long weekend

Do you think we could take things easy til I wake up please?

thanks

Going to be a nice day tomorrow I hear and June. Goodbye May.

LOL, really......most unaccountable bunch of .... in history!

np, gn

Yeah fuck off May

I had such a bad month I can't even watch top gear anymore

[  ] Sure gonna be held accountable.
[X] Still illegal boarding and capture of a ship in international waters - so still piracy.
[  ] Machine guns against knives and clubs is really brave & not murderous criminal behaviour.

From my perspective as a (former) lawyer with no axe to grind whatsoever, the Israelis boarded a ship in International waters which is Piracy so everything else in kinda irrelevant. They have acted illegally.

Much the same as us invading Iraq.

If you want other folk to obey International Law it's generally a good idea to obey it yourself.

The Israeli army are sure going to give a toss about that after a couple of their mates have been murdered............

If that is true, it still wouldn't have happened if they hadn't acted illegally in the first place. The ship wasn't acting illegally. The Israeli's were.

Doesn't matter if they were acting illegally or not, they don't give a toss if they were..............

Strategically the humanitarian aid protestors couldn't lose
Tactically they messed it up

Either:

1. The Israeli's would let them through the blockade - then they'd get huge publicity and deliver the aid (this was never going to happen)
2. They would stop the aid and the protestors could just surrender - this would have pretty much the same result as what hapenned but probably (but only probably) without them dying
3. They attacked the Israeli's and defended themselves - with the current situation

Clearly the 2nd option would have been much a better option - but ultimately AndrewT hit the nail on the head and it doesn't really require that much analysis or discussion really

"it is better to die on your feet, than live forever on your knees"

-Federico García Lorca