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Title: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: chezzboy on June 06, 2010, 10:18:58 PM Just looking for some thoughts on the following hand, bear in mind I'm a recreational (aka brain doing) player, is this an easy fold pre?
Is my post-flop line any good? My thinking was it was value to call pre, on the flop I'm trying to get them in. PokerStars Game #45156611480: Tournament #314010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2010/06/06 21:41:54 WET [2010/06/06 16:41:54 ET] Table '314010003 520' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: islonik (2215 in chips) Seat 2: baeks22 (5705 in chips) Seat 3: DemonClean8 (2370 in chips) Seat 4: JokersGrind (8885 in chips) Seat 5: Jonabus (6120 in chips) Seat 6: jahrasta387 (3800 in chips) Seat 7: WhiskeyR (6655 in chips) Seat 8: chezzboy1 (4365 in chips) Seat 9: FeldesTo (2445 in chips) islonik: posts the ante 25 baeks22: posts the ante 25 DemonClean8: posts the ante 25 JokersGrind: posts the ante 25 Jonabus: posts the ante 25 jahrasta387: posts the ante 25 WhiskeyR: posts the ante 25 chezzboy1: posts the ante 25 FeldesTo: posts the ante 25 WhiskeyR: posts small blind 125 chezzboy1: posts big blind 250 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to chezzboy1 [Tc Qh] FeldesTo: folds islonik: folds baeks22: folds DemonClean8: folds JokersGrind: raises 500 to 750 Jonabus: folds jahrasta387: calls 750 WhiskeyR: folds chezzboy1: calls 500 *** FLOP *** [4d 6c Qd] chezzboy1: checks JokersGrind: bets 1500 jahrasta387: folds chezzboy1: raises 2090 to 3590 and is all-in JokersGrind: calls 2090 *** TURN *** [4d 6c Qd] [Jd] *** RIVER *** [4d 6c Qd Jd] [Ac] *** SHOW DOWN *** chezzboy1: shows [Tc Qh] (a pair of Queens) JokersGrind: shows [Jc Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks) JokersGrind collected 9780 from pot chezzboy1 finished the tournament in 15452nd place pegueno is connected *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 9780 | Rake 0 Board [4d 6c Qd Jd Ac] Seat 1: islonik folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: baeks22 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: DemonClean8 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: JokersGrind showed [Jc Jh] and won (9780) with three of a kind, Jacks Seat 5: Jonabus folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: jahrasta387 (button) folded on the Flop Seat 7: WhiskeyR (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: chezzboy1 (big blind) showed [Tc Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens Seat 9: FeldesTo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: ChipRich on June 06, 2010, 10:20:35 PM without any shadow of a doubt, yes.
Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: Meister on June 07, 2010, 12:40:22 AM obv
Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: GreekStein on June 07, 2010, 12:50:34 AM without any shadow of a doubt, yes. Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2010, 02:11:32 AM pre fold
as you called lead the flop Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: GreekStein on June 07, 2010, 02:41:02 AM Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2010, 03:26:23 AM you dont lead top pair weak kicker? they is no way your going to keep the pot small so might aswell tid there and then or get all the chips in as you hit your card cant see the point in calling pre if your going to fold the flop and dont think your hand is strong enough to check raise with as i said i would call pre but you have to lead i lead alot of hands when i missed or hit (normally deeper granted) i used to check raise every big flop for me but find i get more action leading as they expect me to check raise when i hit a set or a flush or a straight etc etc Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: GreekStein on June 07, 2010, 04:10:05 AM you dont lead top pair weak kicker? they is no way your going to keep the pot small so might aswell tid there and then or get all the chips in as you hit your card cant see the point in calling pre if your going to fold the flop and dont think your hand is strong enough to check raise with as i said i would call pre but you have to lead i lead alot of hands when i missed or hit (normally deeper granted) i used to check raise every big flop for me but find i get more action leading as they expect me to check raise when i hit a set or a flush or a straight etc etc we want the chips in here if we're calling off 20% of our stack pre with Q10o/s so don't risk shutting anyone out from making a c-bet/bluff etc when we want the money in. Pre is the problem here, post is fine. Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: Cf on June 07, 2010, 11:35:30 AM Easiest preflop fold ever. We can't be putting in 1/8th of our stack in pre with QTo.
Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: Girgy85 on June 07, 2010, 11:58:53 AM Easiest preflop fold ever. We can't be putting in 1/8th of our stack in pre with QTo. ^^ THIS ^^ Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: chezzboy on June 07, 2010, 04:35:37 PM I'd say thats pretty conclusive. Thanks lads I'll sigh fold next time ;)
Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: MC on June 07, 2010, 04:39:00 PM I'd say thats pretty conclusive. Thanks lads I'll sigh fold next time ;) lol, fistpump fold imo ;) Title: Re: Should I have folded pre? Stars 1/4mill Post by: byronkincaid on June 07, 2010, 08:50:51 PM we are not pushing pre cuz jahrasta387 has flatted with lowish chips? if he has a bigger stack good to push?
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