Title: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: piestack on June 14, 2010, 12:46:54 PM sb vs bb, deep
opponent is 24/19 and rather straightforward. 6-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 2: co ($944.50 in chips) Seat 3: btn ($2330.15 in chips) Seat 4: hero ($799.80 in chips) Seat 5: villain ($1390.40 in chips) Seat 6: utg ($1023.60 in chips) hero: posts small blind $2 villain: posts big blind $4 co: posts the ante $0.80 btn: posts the ante $0.80 hero: posts the ante $0.80 villain: posts the ante $0.80 utg: posts the ante $0.80 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to hero [6d Aspades] 3 folds hero: raises $8 to $12 villain: raises $30 to $42 hero: calls $30 *** FLOP *** [6s Ac Ks] hero: checks villain: bets $64 hero: calls $64 *** TURN *** [6s Ac Ks] [8h] hero: checks villain: bets $166 hero: ?? Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: Free_Rollin on June 14, 2010, 12:50:22 PM calllllllllllllllll.
Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: Longy on June 14, 2010, 12:52:28 PM Call again?
Our hand is too strong to fold, but by raising we valuetown ourselves. This is assuming we don't have some funky history where he will go mad with 1 pair. Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: piestack on June 14, 2010, 02:08:31 PM if calling, there's psb left on river.
and i assume it's to check call or check fold river. so how much are you check calling when he bets? eff stack left is about $528 Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: EvilPie on June 14, 2010, 03:39:41 PM Villain's bet sizing looks perfect to get the lot in on the end.
Looks like a set up to me. You're probably behind. Call. Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: Free_Rollin on June 14, 2010, 04:17:12 PM and i assume it's to check call or check fold river. Check calling river. Just fyl when the river rolls off a 10/J/Q. Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: GreekStein on June 14, 2010, 11:28:04 PM yeah if the river rolls off a queen i puke.
call and call again tho Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: pleno1 on June 15, 2010, 02:37:08 AM thoughts on flatting turn and leading blank rivers?
Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: mondatoo on June 15, 2010, 09:44:37 AM From my experience's of playing 6max if he fires the river I'd say we're ahead <10% of the time.Definitely don't lead the river our hand isn't strong enough and we should be trying to get to showdown.Not saying I would fold because I'm tez at cash but I don't think we beat anything in his range.
Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: pleno1 on June 15, 2010, 01:50:11 PM if we call pre it seems absurd to fold now.
Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: DMorgan on June 15, 2010, 02:29:07 PM Not sure why everyone thinks we're so far behind. The guy is decently aggressive at 24/19, he can easily be 3betting and firing two with AQ AJ AT. My preferred line is to call and lead the river pretty small, say 40% of the pot. If he's as straightforward as you say he is we can pretty much eliminate the possibility of being bluff shoved on the river.
I really don't like check calling here since he's probably going to fire big both with his semibluffs, better aces up and sets. Just puts us in a really nasty spot where we're pretty sure he's not bluffing but could well be overplaying an Ax hand that we beat. Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: pleno1 on June 15, 2010, 05:30:28 PM Not sure why everyone thinks we're so far behind. The guy is decently aggressive at 24/19, he can easily be 3betting and firing two with AQ AJ AT. My preferred line is to call and lead the river pretty small, say 40% of the pot. If he's as straightforward as you say he is we can pretty much eliminate the possibility of being bluff shoved on the river. I really don't like check calling here since he's probably going to fire big both with his semibluffs, better aces up and sets. Just puts us in a really nasty spot where we're pretty sure he's not bluffing but could well be overplaying an Ax hand that we beat. my thoughts too. Title: Re: obv i should fold pre. but i didn't. so now whaT? Post by: piestack on June 15, 2010, 06:11:36 PM thinking about that and i quite like that line, esp if the flush hits on the river
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