Title: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: SnowmanShan on July 02, 2010, 10:40:44 AM Just got moved 6 hands ago already played decent sized pot Vs villain. Very first hand I get moved he opens full 3x to 21k I 3b to 48k (to small?) he flats. Flop is Q73r, he checks and for some dumb reason I check. Turn is 3. He bets really small like 1/10th pot i call. River is 5 no flush draws and he overbets pot I fold. So I guess he thinks I am a retard.
I thought checking flop is fine and calling turn and cant see anything else but to fold river. I guess Im thinking does our history have anything to do with it? Also what do u think of sizing pre? Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t4000/t8000 Blinds + t800 - 9 players - View hand 784435 The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter MP2: t103141 M = 5.37 CO: t376279 M = 19.60 BTN: t341274 M = 17.77 SB: t783516 M = 40.81 Hero (BB): t390243 M = 20.33 UTG: t140749 M = 7.33 UTG+1: t714044 M = 37.19 UTG+2: t195408 M = 10.18 MP1: t599925 M = 31.25 Pre Flop: (t19200) Hero is BB with Kc Kd 7 folds, SB raises to t16000, Hero raises to t44444, SB calls t28444 Flop: (t96088) Ad 4s 5d (2 players) SB checks, Hero checks Turn: (t96088) 7c (2 players) SB bets t40000, Hero calls t40000 River: (t176088) 7h (2 players) SB bets t200000, Hero ??? Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: Cf on July 02, 2010, 11:16:58 AM Preflop is fine. Flatting is an option too I think for deception in pos.
I'm cbetting this flop 100% of the time. 50k ish seems about right. As played calling turn is fine. River is a fold I guess. You can beat bluffs but that's about it. Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: MC on July 02, 2010, 01:24:42 PM I like the 44444, don't agree with CF that we should flat when we are this deep, get some chips in there imo, especially when it's BvB and he might 4-bet a lot of medium strength hands.
I think a C-Bet is right on this textured flop, obviously we have to call the turn as played...Sigh fold river I guess, but I have been known to call in these spots. Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 02, 2010, 01:57:35 PM Preflop is fine. Flatting is an option too I think for deception in pos. I'm cbetting this flop 100% of the time. 50k ish seems about right. As played calling turn is fine. River is a fold I guess. You can beat bluffs but that's about it. This, but I snap-call in the previous hand with KK on the Q7335 board, seriously how can you fold on the end after checking the flop? Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: SnowmanShan on July 02, 2010, 02:02:21 PM O I dindth say previous hand was talking about I had AKo.
Nobody thinks checking A high flop is ok? I mean if he c/r flop we almost always fold. I think if we check flop we ca sometimes gte to showdown (I think)? Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: Cf on July 02, 2010, 02:02:49 PM Oh, AK. Yeah, again, cbet that first hand. Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: Cf on July 02, 2010, 02:06:49 PM O I dindth say previous hand was talking about I had AKo. Nobody thinks checking A high flop is ok? I mean if he c/r flop we almost always fold. I think if we check flop we ca sometimes gte to showdown (I think)? Do you always check an A high flop with KK? Id he check raises you then you have a new decision to make. And it may well be a fold. But if I 3bet with Ax and hit the A i'm cbetting it 100% of the time. So play your KK the same. Title: Re: KK BvB Deepish in 3r Post by: SnowmanShan on July 02, 2010, 02:22:15 PM I often cbet KK on A high flop but in 3b pots I seem to struggle and get check raised a lot, so I have reduced cbet a lot in those spots, which I guess is bad. yeah first hand was stupis and I almost always would cbet there.
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