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Title: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Eso Kral on July 05, 2010, 09:15:38 PM This is my first poker hand post on here but would like any advice from the regs
Its the £300 deepstack at DTD last weekend there are 110 players left blinds are 200/400 25 average chips 19000 I have 25000 and since the early levels when i took a couple of beats had dwindled to 3500 then through 1 river bink some well timed bluffs and one genuine hand have got up above the average when the folowing hand occured. The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. UTG(fairly abc player) with a stack of 11000 raises to 1100 utg+2 (new player) with a stack of 26000 no history re pops to 4100 i wake up to Ahrt Kd in cut off. How should i play from here as would be really interested in your thoughts, i will post below what happened. I decide that the reraiser can only call my shove with QQ+ and AK thoughts? and if the utg has a hand im not out if i dont hit also that i cant reraise to 10k and fold to the re reraise so i shove and the utg folds unfortunately the utg+2 checks that he still has Kc Ks and calls sigh no binkage and im out What i would like is feedback on how others would play it and if its ok in other players eyes to call/fold if i miss the flop or if i jus play as i did to to ammass a decent stack to play with Thanks in advance for your input. Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Skgv on July 05, 2010, 09:24:57 PM Fold in that spot unless really agro players which u said wernt!
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Claw75 on July 05, 2010, 09:25:39 PM with the original raiser playing ABC and the 3 better being a new player i'm flatting here and passing to a shove from utg or any action on a missed flop
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: EvilPie on July 05, 2010, 09:36:15 PM The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. The main thing you need to learn is to stop doing this. Showing bluffs is fine in some circumstances. One of those circumstances is not "hoping to hit some cards". Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Skgv on July 05, 2010, 09:48:29 PM The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. The main thing you need to learn is to stop doing this. Showing bluffs is fine in some circumstances. One of those circumstances is not "hoping to hit some cards". Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Eso Kral on July 05, 2010, 09:50:25 PM The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. The main thing you need to learn is to stop doing this. Showing bluffs is fine in some circumstances. One of those circumstances is not "hoping to hit some cards". Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Eso Kral on July 05, 2010, 09:51:50 PM Fold in that spot unless really agro players which u said wernt! I see you post here quite a lot is this a fold to you 100% of the time or do you peel often?Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: celtic on July 05, 2010, 09:53:04 PM Hate calling, I'm folding or shoving. Prob folding.
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: EvilPie on July 05, 2010, 09:54:05 PM The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. The main thing you need to learn is to stop doing this. Showing bluffs is fine in some circumstances. One of those circumstances is not "hoping to hit some cards". I hate you Pete. Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: EvilPie on July 05, 2010, 09:58:57 PM The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. The main thing you need to learn is to stop doing this. Showing bluffs is fine in some circumstances. One of those circumstances is not "hoping to hit some cards". There aren't many circumstances where I'll fold AK pre flop. This is looking like one of the few. If you're feeling ballsy and have a good rep you could 4 bet to about 9.5k but understand that if you do this you might as well have 72o because you can't call a shove. You could easily get ABC man and new player to fold AK and QQ here with a 4 bet and take down a nice uncontested pot but it'd take an uber nit to pass KK Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Skgv on July 05, 2010, 10:03:36 PM I hate you Pete. Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Skgv on July 05, 2010, 10:06:05 PM The only other bit of history i have is 2 hands previous i showed a double barrelled bluff as 3 new players had joined the table and was hoping to hit some cards and take advantage of the bluff. The main thing you need to learn is to stop doing this. Showing bluffs is fine in some circumstances. One of those circumstances is not "hoping to hit some cards". There aren't many circumstances where I'll fold AK pre flop. This is looking like one of the few. If you're feeling ballsy and have a good rep you could 4 bet to about 9.5k but understand that if you do this you might as well have 72o because you can't call a shove. You could easily get ABC man and new player to fold AK and QQ here with a 4 bet and take down a nice uncontested pot but it'd take an uber nit to pass KK Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Skgv on July 05, 2010, 10:09:34 PM Fold in that spot unless really agro players which u said wernt! I see you post here quite a lot is this a fold to you 100% of the time or do you peel often?P.s me an evilpie are good friends so dont worry about the sarcasim ! Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Eso Kral on July 05, 2010, 10:23:11 PM Fold in that spot unless really agro players which u said wernt! I see you post here quite a lot is this a fold to you 100% of the time or do you peel often?P.s me an evilpie are good friends so dont worry about the sarcasim ! Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: NoflopsHomer on July 06, 2010, 01:05:59 AM Hate calling, I'm folding. Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: action man on July 06, 2010, 06:37:14 AM im never 4bet folding. If players are playing this tight for AK to be a trivail fold, then i suggest raising close to 35% of pots pre
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: railtard1 on July 06, 2010, 08:20:18 AM defo fold in this comp with the likely remaining player standard so bad
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: boldie on July 06, 2010, 08:39:40 AM Isn't this a fairly standard fold?
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Claw75 on July 06, 2010, 09:31:28 AM Isn't this a fairly standard fold? in theory yes, but in real life I still call and most probably lose 4k chips from my stack, tell myself afterwards that I should have folded, then do exactly the same next time. Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: BulldozerD on July 06, 2010, 09:33:59 AM i folded queens in a similar spot a few months ago and would muck AK here readless. Don't like flat calling at all
Title: Re: £300 DTD deepstack 110 players left Post by: Eso Kral on July 06, 2010, 06:58:58 PM Thanks for the input everyone, it has been appreciated
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