blonde poker forum

Poker Forums => Poker Hand Analysis => Topic started by: davidhendrie on July 07, 2010, 03:54:55 AM



Title: What do we need to call?
Post by: davidhendrie on July 07, 2010, 03:54:55 AM
Just a quick one:

Fast blind structure live tournament. Slightly less than thirty (half the field) left. Blinds now 600 / 1200 no ante. We have had an early double up but card dead / inactive the past few orbits after having moved to new table. Currently on around 17k which is about average.

Quietish UTG raises to 3600. Flat call from bad player in UTG+1. Cutoff shoves for about 10K. UTG has maybe 10k total as well, UTG+1 has about 16k total. UTG+1 already looks like she's calling(!). 

We are on the button.

What do we generally need to call/shove?  Is a range of AKs /QQ+ too nitty or just about ok? 


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: boldie on July 07, 2010, 10:10:48 AM
I would throw away AK here, probably sigh and think about folding QQ as well. (which I would then snap call with and curse myself for not folding)


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: GreekStein on July 07, 2010, 10:17:18 AM
I fistpump AK and QQ.

Sigh fold 1010.


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: EvilPie on July 07, 2010, 11:32:43 AM
I fistpump AK and QQ.

Sigh fold 1010.

He's still dwelling JJ.


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: boldie on July 07, 2010, 01:16:06 PM
I fistpump AK and QQ.

Sigh fold 1010.

Because it's a local donkfest or because you genuinely think that you're ahead here? (Obv local donkfests mean that UTG could have, say tt, flat caller could have KQ and shover could have JJ/AQ but against 3 all-ins do you reallythink AK is ussually ahead?


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: paulhouk03 on July 07, 2010, 02:40:37 PM
its a fast structure

 so i would never be folding ak or qq
i think ur range is spot on

but if its a low level buy in which i cant be arsed to grind i wouldnt fold jj or aq s either


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: davidhendrie on July 07, 2010, 06:58:16 PM
I think I'd be less likely to fold AK here than a mid-pair (with shallow stacks) thinking that if we hit we're likely to more than treble up and set ourselves up for a final table run, and we're only really conerned about KK or AA which we can't automatically put anyone on - deeper stacks and it might be a different story. I didn't have AK so I don't know what I'd do in reality but with hindsight I might have taken the gamble. With a pair lower than queens I'm kind of assuming at least two overs, probably three, and there might still be an overpair to ours out there, and it doesn't feel like that much of a great spot.


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: DMorgan on July 09, 2010, 03:07:17 PM
AK/QQ+ I think

AK isn't a snap for me, but pot odds kinda dictate this one. JJ is really close but I think I sigh fold.


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: davidhendrie on July 09, 2010, 07:01:58 PM
I sigh-folded  Jc Js in the end.

Local donkfest was about right. Cutoff had 4d 4h (wut?), UTG called off stack with  5c 5d and UTG+1 also called with  Jd Ahrt. 

Fives held on a ten high board.

FML etc


Title: Re: What do we need to call?
Post by: StuartHopkin on July 09, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
Is late registration still open? I would like to play please. Thx