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   I have a stack of around 18K as does villain, Blinds are 300-600 the previous hand he gay raised and showed A K he now does this again and i look down to see   5c 5d on the button, so i flat ? And both the blinds call. Flop is  Kc 5h 4h both blinds check as does villain action on me i bet 2K both blinds fold he then makes it 4K i decide to flat ? And the turn is a  Qh and he leads out for 4K action on me ?

What was the gay raise ammount?  I take it 3 x....  pot around 3 - 4k on flop?    Runners?  how many left?  Your current position?  all important in decsision.

If there is around 3k in the middle on the flop, you bet 2k + raise to 4k, 9k in middle (half your current stack).

I would shove the re-raise on the flop.   

gay raise=min raise innit

Flat call pre is fine, but surely you want to be re-raising his 4K on the flop as it's all worked out perfectly for you?

Yep my bad this is my first post on here..
His gay raise was 1200, on flop there was 4800 in middle.
18 players started with 16 left. Av stack is around 20K its deepstack comp..
I'd also just lost a 10K pot with my JJ gettin busted by A K from short stack..

Glad ya think the flat call pre is ok, i wasn't to sure if i was being a bit nitty with it..
Thought about shovin after his check raise on flop, but i was tryin to work out what he could have?

very, very much this.

Well, seeing as this is how he played AK before according to you maybe AK?

If he has something better than you on the flop you go broke...simple as that, nothing you can do about it.

If he has something worse you have to get it in now and there are too many cards that can scare him off on the turn.

Why would you want to be scaring him off on the flop by 3 betting him? If you're scared of being outdrawn then just ship but we aren't scared we want to get all his chips. I'm more bothered about the heart being an action killer than making oppos hand.

Flatting his min raise is fine imo.

We've got position and we're shallow enough that by the river we can easily manipulate this pot to be playing for stacks so give him another chance to check raise us.

When he leads the turn it's time to ship.

Looks like he's trying to buy a cheap river to me. There's enough in the pot now that he'll call if he's holding the  Kh or any Kx combo where the x happens to be a heart.

If he's already made the flush then bink the pair up please.

Thanks.

I think we can happily 3bet the flop without too much fear of villain going anywhere. If we assume he's min raising pre then he's prob not very good. And he's just min raised the flop too. I'm happy to assume he has the K here and isn't going to fold.

much easier to get stacks in if you bet more on the flop. Pot is 4800 i think so a bet of 3k is probably more appropriate than 2k.

i'd call the raise and obviously get it in on the turn

+1

I would just 3bet ship it in on the flop given stacks. His line is pretty strong and is pretty much repping (ak,kk+), why would we want to bother letting a scare card come off (any heart) and potentially kill our action.

Gay raise LOL



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3bet flop ftw.

Don't 3bet the flop. You just fold out a lot of mid pairs that have 2 outs and weaker Kx hands that are pretty much drawing dead. Ship the turn obv.

Thanks for the feedback, very helpfull..
As he bet the turn he did come across as if this was a good card for him, but because of the check raise i pressumed he had a made hand already and the  Qh made him feel more confident. I was putting him on something along the lines of Kx  Ahrt or  Kh Q.. So i shoved my stack in to find that i needed help on the river as he flipped  6h 7h over, and obv no help came for me as the river was a  3h for the straight flush... Mbn.. lol
Is the check raise a standard move with a flush draw as it seemed to baffle me?
But i guess he's never folding if i jam on flop?

none of these should dictate how to play a hand

Cawl and get it on the turn innit

oh and his flop play is ridic bad

And you probs shouldn't be flatting with 30 bigs. Ship or fold pre.

Ship 30 bigs to a min raise?

im ok with flatting here cos he's min raised and we haz the button

i'd fold if he opened for 3x tho

yeh don't ever do this in what is probably an ante-less, soft tourney

still don't like set mining

folding would be > shoving then. think it's ok tho risking 2bb to potentially win almost 32bb, especially since we have the button and can win the pot without flopping a set in some circumstances

i prefer just 3betting to shoving here tho

Yeh i'm also not a fan of set mining either George, just felt that i could take him off the pot with a low board as he seems to raise like this with AK. And i thought has he got the hand or something like it back too back.. I probably shouldn't be thinking like this i guess as he had 6 7... lol well done me.. Action flop tho..