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Title: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: Woodsey on July 23, 2010, 03:01:54 AM
Ok here's my own............

Full Tilt Poker Game #22519783029: Table Eve (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 20:53:03 ET - 2010/07/22
Seat 1: rossini3 ($62.20)
Seat 2: SmartyCat ($69.05)
Seat 3: Susannie ($91.90)
Seat 4: WiseUpIownU ($50.70)
Seat 5: Roman Ivanovich ($69.25)
Seat 6: Assad91 ($50)
Susannie posts the small blind of $0.25
WiseUpIownU posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Susannie [Kd 2d Kh 2c]
Roman Ivanovich calls $0.50
Assad91 calls $0.50
rossini3 calls $0.50
SmartyCat has 15 seconds left to act
SmartyCat raises to $3.25
Susannie calls $3
WiseUpIownU folds
Roman Ivanovich calls $2.75
Assad91 raises to $17.25
rossini3 folds
SmartyCat has 15 seconds left to act
SmartyCat calls $14

Humpphhhhhhhhhh, call or raise and why?


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: DMorgan on July 23, 2010, 03:47:11 AM
All depends on whether or not Assad91 is decent or not. If he's good then he could have limped along with a crappy AAxx hand and now be repotting since he can get enough of his stack in pre. If he's bad then he's just gunna pot it pre with any AAxx hand. PTR says that he's bad so I think we've gotta repot and get it in since neither player has AAxx here imo.


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: Woodsey on July 23, 2010, 03:53:30 AM
All depends on whether or not Assad91 is decent or not. If he's good then he could have limped along with a crappy AAxx hand and now be repotting since he can get enough of his stack in pre. If he's bad then he's just gunna pot it pre with any AAxx hand. PTR says that he's bad so I think we've gotta repot and get it in since neither player has AAxx here imo.

PTR only has 310 hands on Assad91 for Omaha, I was aware of this at the time. No other info.................


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: boldie on July 23, 2010, 07:54:38 AM
blah, I fold this faster than a fast thing on fast day. But I might just be too tight. I reckon you're never favourite to win the hand here.


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: GreekStein on July 23, 2010, 08:32:32 AM
You're not factoring in your $18k of run good.

Get it in and try not to tilt too hard if you lose $50


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: DMorgan on July 23, 2010, 12:22:18 PM
blah, I fold this faster than a fast thing on fast day. But I might just be too tight. I reckon you're never favourite to win the hand here.

Running KK22 vs two other hands in the top 15% that aren't AAxx we should definitely get it in

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6807/ploc.png)


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: EvilPie on July 23, 2010, 12:32:23 PM
You're about 33% against a decent AA hand such as AA78 as long as your diamond draw isn't crushed.

You're pretty much flipping against 5678ds

You're ahead of any non AA hand.

Double paired hands are lovely at PLO especially when you're playing short and cheap. You're never a big dog and there's some satisfying binks to be had.

Get it in quickly man.


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 23, 2010, 05:17:43 PM
blah, I fold this faster than a fast thing on fast day. But I might just be too tight. I reckon you're never favourite to win the hand here.

Running KK22 vs two other hands in the top 15% that aren't AAxx we should definitely get it in

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6807/ploc.png)

This is very close, but i think you're underestimating how frequently Asado has AAxx hands. I think a fold would be marginally more profitable in this instance. If I was loosing for the session id call tho lol


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: Woodsey on July 23, 2010, 08:33:12 PM
I actually opted to ship on this occasion and one other player called as well as Assad. He did indeed have AAxx, other player had some BS hand and I binked obv :D


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 23, 2010, 08:38:59 PM
I actually opted to ship on this occasion and one other player called as well as Assad. He did indeed have AAxx, other player had some BS hand and I binked obv :D

I think we can take a results orientated line and say GOOD SHOVE wiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: MrBlond on July 28, 2010, 07:10:29 PM
Folding pre at any point would be terrible, I would actually just 3bet the first raise but as played after getting 3bet just flat because you're hitting a set 1/4 times and a flush draw often enough also to get it in on the flop.

But shipping and binking works too!


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: titaniumbean on July 28, 2010, 08:24:01 PM
I actually opted to ship on this occasion and one other player called as well as Assad. He did indeed have AAxx, other player had some BS hand and I binked obv :D

I think we can take a results orientated line and say GOOD SHOVE wiiiiiiiii


GOGOGO Woodsey rungoods :)up


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on July 29, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Folding pre at any point would be terrible, I would actually just 3bet the first raise but as played after getting 3bet just flat because you're hitting a set 1/4 times and a flush draw often enough also to get it in on the flop.

But shipping and binking works too!

I think its a lot closer, slightly higher up I think folding becomes marginally the worst play, but at these stakes people making these plays just have it AAxx hands far too much. plus it looks like its going to be 3way if you shove+ ur hand plays pretty terrible multi-way. If you have reason to think one of the guys would fold...then shoving is profitable for sure.

Also +1 on the 3betting pre. +1 on calling to flop 40% equity :)


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: Amatay on July 29, 2010, 11:04:48 PM
i snap fold here


Title: Re: .25/.50c PLO Hand
Post by: GreekStein on July 30, 2010, 12:45:47 AM
i snap fold here

yeah u got no gamble, no heart son.

a nit in ur old age