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joszunabot18 is a good reg

PokerStars Game #47517788257: Tournament #296877655, $11+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2010/07/31 10:08:06 ET
Table '296877655 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: AEFALIROU (942 in chips)
Seat 5: joszunabot18 (47667 in chips)
Seat 8: mondonewc (18891 in chips)
AEFALIROU: posts the ante 50
joszunabot18: posts the ante 50
mondonewc: posts the ante 50
joszunabot18: posts small blind 400
mondonewc: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mondonewc [Ac Kc]
AEFALIROU: folds
joszunabot18: raises 46817 to 47617 and is all-in

Payouts 154,110,77

I think this is a fold tbh. Even if you win you don't guarantee getting 1st.

Longy, do some calculations.

Done calcs will post results when a few have replied

Folding pretty quick

payouts are a bit flatter than in a stt so prob v close

I am passing. Range for calling something like jj+ at a guess.

Just ran it through SNGEGT and its a fold, calling with JJ+ assuming that the reg is shoving any 2 as he should be

just noticed that the short stack is in our sb, so it will be hard for the big stack to keep him alive - if the big stack was in this position and say had already given the short stack a walk, would it make any difference to anyone?

F**k folding!!

Call and TID.

I can understand that the math says fold but I don't play enough sngs to give a shit about locking up the extra $33

Would be different if it was an mtt and there was more than 3bi involved. Billy big stack could exploit the hell out of me then but here I just call.

For the sng grinders I can see why a fold would be the preferred choice. Out of interest if you drop big stack by 2k and stick it on shorty's stack is this still a fold?

Yeah I'm folding, and I don't really follow ICM but this is clear cut fold

insta snap

The shorty has to have 10k to make AKs a call. We can call with TT if you stick the extra 2k on.

Different responses to what I expected wpwp.It's a fold ICM wise if he's shoving 100% of his range your calling range is QQ+.I called he had J10 results don't matter but James insta thought it was a call but after a while thought maybe it's a fold I dwelled called but thought ICM this is maybe a fold.

I disagree with the shorty needing to have 10k for this to be a right call I'd be suprised if your correct here ?

I'm just quoting the numbers from SNGEGT (free ICM calc)

I was pretty suprised at that myself. I'd double check it but stars comes up with an annoying message to close the program 'cos its prohibited software

if guy has 9k im neverrrrrrrrr folding, im like fml fold as it is.

does anything change if this guy is not a reg?

IE could we tighten up his shovin range from not quite any 2 any more? would this mean we are dominating more of his his range? would this make it any more likely to be a call?

Im not saying it would be, just genuinly interested in this. The answer could be a simple "no" or "no fatty" who knows.

I pass.  Not happy at having to call off my whole stack here when the short stack is going to bust in the next few hands.

If his shoving range is only 50% we should fold KK according to ICM.