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history with villain is a lot from this tourney already, he opened in EP we peeled QTc on the button flop 4c 2c 2d he open jams 3k into 350 pot and we get there vs 88. A few hands ago i opened to 300 from 7k stack he jams 3k in at 50/100 we call AQ and lose to his KJo

PokerStars Game #48015900610: Tournament #325010443, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2010/08/11 18:54:38 WET [2010/08/11 13:54:38 ET]
Table '325010443 42' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: MSilence (1825 in chips)
Seat 2: bobshisdub (4590 in chips)
Seat 3: gabocc_87 (7320 in chips)
Seat 4: ThEcLaiMEer (4710 in chips)
Seat 5: lil kerr (6105 in chips)
Seat 6: Bruno GT (2550 in chips)
Seat 7: GoferBroke (4510 in chips)
Seat 8: ItsVil (5665 in chips)
Seat 9: probirs (2261 in chips)
bobshisdub: posts small blind 50
gabocc_87: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ThEcLaiMEer [Qh Qd]
ThEcLaiMEer: raises 200 to 300
MSilence said, "8\6 guy"
MSilence said, "ofc"
lil kerr: folds
Bruno GT: folds
GoferBroke: folds
ItsVil: calls 300
probirs: folds
MSilence: folds
bobshisdub: folds
gabocc_87: folds
*** FLOP *** [8c Tc 9d]
ThEcLaiMEer: bets 400
ItsVil: calls 400
*** TURN *** [8c Tc 9d] [Ah]
ThEcLaiMEer:

You supposed to bet fold for 700. Dunno what i do tho

Sorry I can't offer anything helpful because I really have no idea what to do against this oppo.

I probably just check now and if he does one of his jam moves just sigh fold and kick the dog a bit.

Will be interesting to see how people deal with this spot.

I think bet folding is better than check folding if that helps? Horrible spot tho.

I'd check fold to a jam but not if he bets something normal like 800.

Betting against this oppo seems like it's likely to be exploited unless we bet with a committment to snap if he shoves.

Agree it's an awful hate life spot.

I cant name a hand you beat - maybe JJ

there are plenty we beat on the flop

remember how the guy got excited with 88 on 442 earlier and shoved 3k into 350 pot to protect his hand

*** TURN *** [8c Tc 9d] [Ah]
ThEcLaiMEer: checks
ItsVil: bets 1000
ThEcLaiMEer: calls 1000
*** RIVER *** [8c Tc 9d Ah] [3s]
ThEcLaiMEer: checks
ItsVil: bets 2400
ThEcLaiMEer:

pretty sure we can call a shove here and be happy about it. just not sure whether we should bet or check to induce. think I'm probs check calling (I'm talking about the flop, hadn't read triggs last post before I wrote this)

Fold now. I hope you called though cus I really want to know what he had.

If I'm forced to guess I'd say a weak ace involving a couple of clubs or A8 / A9. I think A10, K10 jam the flop. JJ+ probs 3 bet pre.

If he's bluffing an airball surely he just jams@ Seems to like the all in button.

The spot gets tougher.

Cawlllll guy sounds like a spewtard

Teach me please.

When you call the turn, can you/should you fold to any bet on a brick river like this?

Continue betting half pot on turn and c/c river

As played now, I c/f river

Have you tried the academy @ Full Tilt Poker?

:D

c/f flop v said villain (no joke)

lol alex are u serious?

Yeah you definitely need a straight to continue imo.....

Anyway, I think you've gotta bet a lot bigger on the flop, about 550-600. We're getting more value from Tx, Jx, an absolute ton of hands that we're crushing.

As played I check/fold turn. Ace is a really bad card and I don't think he's firing Tx or draws on this turn. Your flop betsize probably has him clinging on with A9, A7, maybe A8 with backdoor clubs aswell to see this turn.

River is a fold aswell imo. He's now gotta be 2 barrel bluffing and how often do you see that live from randoms? Ok so he's spewy but he just doubled up with his KJ so he's probably forgotten all about the 88 hand which he puts down as a sick beat.

call now as played, think i bet fold turn thou

i hate bet/fold turn vs this kind of oppo, against a thinking player i think b/f turn is the line against someone who thinks there playing blackjack i prefer c/c

fwiw.

*** RIVER *** [8c Tc 9d Ah] [3s]
ThEcLaiMEer: checks
ItsVil: bets 2400
ThEcLaiMEer: calls 2400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ItsVil: shows [5s 5h] (a pair of Fives)
ThEcLaiMEer: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
ThEcLaiMEer collected 8350 from pot

qft