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Spot I found a bit tricky - thoughts welcome.

£100 side event at Luton this week, 7.5k starting stack, 25 min blinds.  we've just broken to four tables, I'm new to mine.  blinds are 500/1000/100.  I'm in the SB with about 18k.  Big blind has around 10k.  Middle aged guy, well turned out, don't recognise him from Luton so I'm working on the assumption that he's travelled here for the fessie and is a decent player.   Passed round to me with Ad 7h.  I make up, bb checks his option.  (opinions on this please?  I didn't raise as I didn't want to be faced with a shove, and figure the  Ad is fairly well disguised if I hit - ok or too weak?)

Flop is  8c 7s 3h

I lead for 2k, bb flats.

turn 6s

???

It'a a 10bb effective shove and we have A7 bvb with antes,snap jam pre

yep, Jam pre. He only has 10 bigs and we have Ace and Ace is gutttttttttttttttttt.

ok so if we accept I've butchered the hand thus far, what to do on the turn?

BB is obv terrible to just flat the flop and leave himself 7bbs behind,I put him in on the turn

Just out of interest was the plan to limp/fold pre ?

no i'd have shoved over a standard raise/called a shove

Just with you saying you didn't want to be faced with a shove

yeah i know it sounds a bit contradictory, but i'd figure his range for shoving when i've shown weakness by just making up would be wider in that spot than his range for jamming over a raise with no fold equity.

^^^^^this definately

fwiw, it's a no-brainer to me pre-flop if my stack is a bit smaller or a fair bit bigger - I guess i'm getting too risk adverse by not just shoving with the stack I had (where i'm not in dire need of a double up, but don't really want to commit over half my stack).

obv should jam pre but now this is a really gross spot. i'd expect 9T and 8x to jam the flop so shove and hope that he hero calls with 7x I think

Omg just always jam pre, limping here is not great with atc, tbh i hate sb limps period.

Turn i just get this in already, 910 and random 8's are obv a possibilty but he shld jam these holdings on the flop anyway.

I put him in and hope he either hero's with a worse 7 or a stubbornly played ocards-which he'll now fold after his donko float this shallow anyway.

Yeah just jammage pre.

lol steady

Didnt mean to sound harsh, just thought stand ship pre end of nope? :)

Obv jam pre

Set him in on the turn

Ignoring the individual hand I'm guessing this is the underlying issue, taking some risks when you're not in dire trouble - but not comfortably chipped up, is the way forward maybe?

this

u got 17bb's urself 90% of the time ur ahead pre here and he v likely to fold, u pick up an orbit of blinds and no tough decisions