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Title: Staking Proposal Post by: Amatay on August 16, 2010, 08:57:56 PM I'm probably looking at staking a friend of mine (the one i mentioned in my recent prev post) and wanted to know your thoughts on this proposal...
100 buyins of plo $50 thats 5k total stake. Each day i start him off with 15 buyins $750. End of each day i empty profs or add to loss so he starts each day with 750. This help him because he has tilt issues so if he does 15 bi's he has to cool off. He cant play anymore than 4 tarbs. He can play any hrs he wants but is committed to play 100k hands We review acc prof/loss every wk and after 10k 20k 30k hands etc in terms of moving up down mixing it up with mtt's 45 mans etc We split 50/50. i'll prob keep rb earnt. Think thats it? What do you reckon? Is it a fair deal?? Cheers Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: kinboshi on August 16, 2010, 08:59:31 PM Blatant "I have a friend" post imo.
Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 16, 2010, 09:44:20 PM aye.
gl Adz Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 16, 2010, 09:44:56 PM but...
why not get him on one of the euro sites where he can rake like a bitch Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Longy on August 16, 2010, 11:00:58 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player.
I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: mondatoo on August 16, 2010, 11:07:19 PM Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 16, 2010, 11:08:03 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 16, 2010, 11:08:27 PM Good advice for Amatay then because he too is an ubernit Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Woodsey on August 16, 2010, 11:11:21 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Longy on August 16, 2010, 11:11:38 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Yeah that will work as well, obv have to get rid of the 4 tables max stipulation. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 16, 2010, 11:16:59 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Just look at my first 25c50c cash staking thread woodsey. Was winning and raking loads. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Woodsey on August 16, 2010, 11:19:52 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Just look at my first 25c50c cash staking thread woodsey. Was winning and raking loads. Fair enough, didn't you do your nuts on another one or was that a different stakes? Sorry not taking the piss or 'owt, just asking........... Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 16, 2010, 11:53:49 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Just look at my first 25c50c cash staking thread woodsey. Was winning and raking loads. Fair enough, didn't you do your nuts on another one or was that a different stakes? Sorry not taking the piss or 'owt, just asking........... yeh at $0.50/1. Across all the limits I've played, I've beaten 25c50c, $1/2 and $2/4. Got battered at 50/1 though Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: hugob055 on August 18, 2010, 11:06:20 AM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Just look at my first 25c50c cash staking thread woodsey. Was winning and raking loads. Fair enough, didn't you do your nuts on another one or was that a different stakes? Sorry not taking the piss or 'owt, just asking........... yeh at $0.50/1. Across all the limits I've played, I've beaten 25c50c, $1/2 and $2/4. Got battered at 50/1 though how many hands u played at 1/2 and 2/4?...........probs no where near enough to sugest your a winning player at those stakes.stop deluding yourself Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 18, 2010, 12:54:36 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Just look at my first 25c50c cash staking thread woodsey. Was winning and raking loads. Fair enough, didn't you do your nuts on another one or was that a different stakes? Sorry not taking the piss or 'owt, just asking........... yeh at $0.50/1. Across all the limits I've played, I've beaten 25c50c, $1/2 and $2/4. Got battered at 50/1 though how many hands u played at 1/2 and 2/4?...........probs no where near enough to sugest your a winning player at those stakes.stop deluding yourself Maybe only like 30,000 or so at $2/4 (which could be considered an insufficient sample) but I've played over 150,000 hands at $1/2 PLO and probably about 100k hands at 25c50c. Please post more. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: sovietsong on August 18, 2010, 12:58:51 PM Sigh- you replied before I could +1
Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Woodsey on August 18, 2010, 01:11:10 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker?
Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 18, 2010, 01:17:21 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Woodsey on August 18, 2010, 01:22:44 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Ahhh, ok.......... Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Murph1984 on August 18, 2010, 01:56:00 PM I'd have thought just searching yourself on Poker Table Ratings would be the easiest way to track hands,rather than have to email the sites,especially Full Tilt with their lack of customer service.
Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 18, 2010, 02:40:46 PM I'd have thought just searching yourself on Poker Table Ratings would be the easiest way to track hands,rather than have to email the sites,especially Full Tilt with their lack of customer service. On ipoker you can literally open a support help box which is like a messenger convo. One guy used to know what I was gonna ask as soon as I opened the box lol. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: pleno1 on August 18, 2010, 02:41:54 PM I'd have thought just searching yourself on Poker Table Ratings would be the easiest way to track hands,rather than have to email the sites,especially Full Tilt with their lack of customer service. On ipoker you can literally open a support help box which is like a messenger convo. One guy used to know what I was gonna ask as soon as I opened the box lol. yeah used this so much in rake races etc. VC mods gave me the doomswitch in the end. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: kinboshi on August 18, 2010, 02:47:47 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Why don't you use a tracker? Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 18, 2010, 03:12:01 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Why don't you use a tracker? Couldn't be bothered. Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: outragous76 on August 18, 2010, 03:24:47 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Why don't you use a tracker? fyp Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: Longy on August 18, 2010, 03:26:40 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Why don't you use a tracker? It doesn't keep track of how much I have been grimmed for fyp Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: GreekStein on August 18, 2010, 04:47:46 PM Cos how do you track no of hands played if you don't use a tracker? You ask the site. I always used to do this. I remember from Blonde I was playing around 20k hands/month. Why don't you use a tracker? It doesn't keep track of how much I have been grimmed for fyp Winnarrrrrrrrr Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: SuuPRlim on August 20, 2010, 03:00:58 PM As i wrote elsewhere not sure this is going to work, because of what the stakee is going to be making as a "pro" player. I quick google suggest 7ptbb/100 is near the ceiling for a good player at this limit, so that is 14bb/100. 4 tarbling you get get about 200 hands an hour, so that is an hourly rate of $14/hr +rb split 50/50 so about $10/hr give or take. So he is going to be working for about what you get in maccy d's, without the free cheeseburgers. For this to work you are going to have to give him a bigger cut/ stake him at higher limits imo. I think Adz just needs to learn to play more tables mate. He's gotta be at LEAST 6 tabling. 9 really isn't hard at these limits. I used to play 9 or 12 tarbs of 25c50c Were you winning playing 9-12 tables? I find that very hard to believe............. Just look at my first 25c50c cash staking thread woodsey. Was winning and raking loads. Fair enough, didn't you do your nuts on another one or was that a different stakes? Sorry not taking the piss or 'owt, just asking........... yeh at $0.50/1. Across all the limits I've played, I've beaten 25c50c, $1/2 and $2/4. Got battered at 50/1 though how many hands u played at 1/2 and 2/4?...........probs no where near enough to sugest your a winning player at those stakes.stop deluding yourself Maybe only like 30,000 or so at $2/4 (which could be considered an insufficient sample) but I've played over 150,000 hands at $1/2 PLO and probably about 100k hands at 25c50c. Please post more. Im loosing lifetime at .50/1 aswell over like 100k hands lol. above EV as well, well played me :) I agree though, play more tables, you can profitably 9-12 table these stakes 100% Title: Re: Staking Proposal Post by: SuuPRlim on August 20, 2010, 05:13:22 PM cant believe I missed the "doesnt record how much you;ve been grimmed for" comment.
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