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Ok 1st hand is from the ftops 6max $240 event. We have 7.4k and open to 525 at 100/200/25 utg with KJs. Table has been pretty inline so far. Shortie jams the button for 1100. BB (8k) calls.  we should?





Second hand. FTOPS ME. Utg (7k) opens small pre antes (think level 3). Has been pretty active/bad so far- saw him check jam 67dd on A92dd in 3b pot v pot cbet. We flat AdKs otb (8k). BB (been relatively incative, big winer on opr) peels (7k). Flop  5d 8d Ah. UTG cbets 2/3 pot, cant recall exactly but i think 600 into 900 or so. we should?

Cut and paste hand histories to make them easier to understand?

Hand 1 - I call.

Hand 2 - I call.

Think I'm a station

"Utg (7k) opens small pre antes (think level 3)"

I was trying to work out what to make of a level 3 thinking player raising small for quite some time. and then I read

"Has been pretty active/bad" and realised what a fool I had been.

Hand 1 I call - I used to think ppl were quite honest postflop in these situations but not so sure now

hand 2 not sure might min raise

hand one is a trivial fold

hand 2 if hes bad raise to get it in, if hes half decent call

hand 1 - see this flat with AA alot nowadays - id probs flat and fold unless i smash the flop - if the BB is bad id iso jam

hand 2 - if he is bad im raising pre to iso him- as played happy to get it in probs (raise to commit). That said if we have the button we could flat

hand 1- i fold

hand 2 - click it back and high five the dealer if he shoves.

im guessing you flat number 2 and the blind raises though.

guess pre is determined by your range here, if you are iso raising the fish much and there's a winning player in the blinds who hasnt been active yet, then it's perfect for him, so I prob 3bet to induce a 4bet from either the spewtard or the winning inactive player.

Yeh I fold hand 1. Just leads to all sorts of chit post flop.

Hand 2 I cawl down

Never folding hand 1 pre. We're getting a bazillion to one in position against the flatter with a hand that flops well and we're still 35bbs deep.

Hand 2 I raise the flop, I expect to have the best hand here almost always and if he's bad we're happy to get it in

I'm not sure I understand.  Those advocating a fold in hand 1 - really?  For what reasons?

KJs is a pretty shite starting hand?

not 6 max  -its suited

You're in position, it's 575 more to call and there's 3,000 in the middle already and you close the action.

I call.

wtf

sorry misread the stacks in hand 1, trival call.

?

I keep agreeing with you. this has to stop

Oh, LOL

:D

They both look like really easy calls to me.

Get ur head out mate.

hand 1, very easy call, ur getting over 5/1, with a man all in so very unlikely bb is going to bluff the dry pot

hand 2 you have top pair  top kicker, with the nut flush redraw. you say the guy has been very active, so i flat him to the river, and poss jam if u make ur flush

Who all those who think  Ks Js is a bad hand, allow me illustrate the kind of hands you can make with it...
 Aspades Ks Qs Js Ts - A royal flush an outstandingly good hand
 Aspades 2s Js 9s  Ks - the NUT flush, a very strong hand
  Ks Qh Js Tc 9d - the K-9 straight, a stroing hand, often the nuts.
 3s 4s  Ts  Js  Ks - the second nut flush, a very very good hand
 Ks Kh Kc Kd - four of a kind kings, an EXTREMELY EXTREMELY STRONG HAND.
 Js Jh Jd Kc Ks - Jacks full of kings, another high ranking hand (full house)

Id raise/call hand 2 most likely unless he's very good.

you forgot to mention that hand 1 was also a knockout tournament which makes folding impossible

hand 2 if the opener was bad and shown to call 3 bets oop light already i would happily 3bet pre

ok so in hand 1 the flop comes  3c 6c 5h and the coldcaller checks to us ip. bet/check back? if bet sizing please


hand 2, so we flat and the sb raises to 2100....