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Title: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Numpty Dumpty on August 18, 2010, 04:25:22 PM ok. this is a spot I have just made up (and made simple for my purpose), because I don't have a hand history of a good one. But...for argument's sake..
online $100 9-man sng, 8 players left. 50/100 - we are playing 2000 we open to 250 from UTG+1 (- we have been more active than most so far, but nothing OTT) C/O min 3-bets to 400 (and has us covered) (- villain has doubed up being on the good end of a cooler. again, he has been more active than most, but has not pulled any nutty aggro moves so far (though we are only ~20mins in) what do we do if we have... 1) Qc Qd 2) Tc Td 3) 2c 2d 4) Ad Kd 5) 6d 7d sorry if the answers seem obvious. I have my own set ways of playing these (assuming no prior notes on the villain) and would be interested to know what others do Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: pleno1 on August 18, 2010, 04:30:21 PM 1- jam
2- jam 3- fold 4- jam 5- fold/stp and go maybe, but prob fold. Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Longy on August 18, 2010, 04:34:59 PM 1. Jam
2. Call playing for pair value as well as set mining 3. Would never open this utg+1 with stack sizes and icm reasons, meh call and set mine if he is baddish, fold if he is good. 4. Jam 5. Wouldn't open pre for reasons like 3, probs fold unless villain is bad postflop. Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: hettonmobster on August 18, 2010, 04:35:56 PM 1. jam
2. call/jam 3. fold 4. jam 5. fold Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Numpty Dumpty on August 18, 2010, 04:40:34 PM 1. Jam 2. Call playing for pair value as well as set mining 3. Would never open this utg+1 with stack sizes and icm reasons, meh call and set mine if he is baddish, fold if he is good. 4. Jam 5. Wouldn't open pre for reasons like 3, probs fold unless villain is bad postflop. Fair point about not opening those hands. I didn't think it through too much - I also wouldn't open these hands (unless table was super nitty - rare nowadays). But interested to hear what people think anyway assuming we did open them.. Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Dubai on August 18, 2010, 04:46:28 PM Jam
Call Call Jam Call Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: outragous76 on August 18, 2010, 04:52:03 PM Jam
Jam Fold Jam Fold Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: StuartHopkin on August 18, 2010, 04:57:45 PM Jam
Call Fold Jam Fold Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: SuuPRlim on August 18, 2010, 11:52:49 PM Jam Jam Call Jam Call Would strongly consider jamming 22 aswel, cos he isnt calling it off with 3c 3dthrough 8d 8c very often but will call AK. Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Sack it off on August 19, 2010, 12:10:18 AM 1. Jam 2. Call playing for pair value as well as set mining 3. Would never open this utg+1 with stack sizes and icm reasons, meh call and set mine if he is baddish, fold if he is good. 4. Jam 5. Wouldn't open pre for reasons like 3, probs fold unless villain is bad postflop. Agree with this except I fold TT Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: SuuPRlim on August 19, 2010, 12:19:17 AM 1. Jam 2. Call playing for pair value as well as set mining 3. Would never open this utg+1 with stack sizes and icm reasons, meh call and set mine if he is baddish, fold if he is good. 4. Jam 5. Wouldn't open pre for reasons like 3, probs fold unless villain is bad postflop. Agree with this except I fold TT Really? wow, for what reason? Im a SnG fish so this isnt rude its genuine question. Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: mondatoo on August 19, 2010, 12:21:55 AM 1. Jam 2. Call playing for pair value as well as set mining 3. Would never open this utg+1 with stack sizes and icm reasons, meh call and set mine if he is baddish, fold if he is good. 4. Jam 5. Wouldn't open pre for reasons like 3, probs fold unless villain is bad postflop. Agree with this except I fold TT Really? wow, for what reason? Im a SnG fish so this isnt rude its genuine question. Jamming 22 is terrible mate,TT is a call Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Sack it off on August 19, 2010, 12:37:32 AM 1. Jam 2. Call playing for pair value as well as set mining 3. Would never open this utg+1 with stack sizes and icm reasons, meh call and set mine if he is baddish, fold if he is good. 4. Jam 5. Wouldn't open pre for reasons like 3, probs fold unless villain is bad postflop. Agree with this except I fold TT Really? wow, for what reason? Im a SnG fish so this isnt rude its genuine question. I just don't value set mining at this stage in a SNG, and oop anything but c/f any flop with no T is a bit spewy. I don't think double ups are as valuable in a SNG as they are in MTT's (and obv cash) because in one blind levels time you can start shoving to take down pots and accumulate that way. Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: SuuPRlim on August 19, 2010, 12:50:17 AM coooool, this is why i never win at SnG's lol
tyx Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: Sack it off on August 19, 2010, 12:57:00 AM coooool, this is why i never win at SnG's lol tyx Don't take my word for it tho. I just give my opinion when I post hand advice, I'm no SNG pro lol Title: Re: facing a min 3-bet OOP Post by: DMorgan on August 19, 2010, 11:13:41 AM Jam
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