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Title: what to do? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 26, 2010, 05:48:50 PM Just had a ridiculously horrible spot but interested what everyone else thinks???
Game # 1834531361 - Omaha High Pot Limit EUR 2/4 - Table "Ramallo" Players(max 2): the811split (EUR 726.25 in seat 1) E@SYCALL4M (EUR 646.50 in seat 2) Dealer: E@SYCALL4M Big Blind: the811split (4.00) Small Blind: E@SYCALL4M (2.00) the811split was dealt: Th - 5c - 7h - 8d E@SYCALL4M Raise (12.00) the811split Call (8.00) Flop 8s - 7c - 3d the811split Check E@SYCALL4M Bet (24.00) the811split Raise (96.00) E@SYCALL4M Call (72.00) Turn 8s - 7c - 3d - Ks the811split Bet (125.00) E@SYCALL4M Call (125.00) River 8s - 7c - 3d - Ks - Qh the811split Check E@SYCALL4M All-In (413.50) Thoughts? Title: Re: what to do? Post by: dan on August 26, 2010, 05:54:45 PM I think that his 8 9 10 J type hand may have just missed all of its outs and as you have given up on the end thinks he can buy it. It really looks like a missed straight draw of some descrption. Unless he has got there with kkxx or qqxx type hands which I doubt.
Title: Re: what to do? Post by: DMorgan on August 26, 2010, 11:35:03 PM I'd have bet a bit bigger on the turn, 170ish.
This is really gross 'cos I think its exactly what he'd do with KQ. Do you think he makes it to the turn with many KKxx or QQxx combos apart from those with 9T or 96? I really don't think that he can have a big wrap thats missed because wouldn't most of them would be happy to 3bet and get it in on a rainbow board considering that you don't have to have a set/2pr to c/r this board? I think the most likely scenario is that he flopped top pair with a KQ8x hand and got stubborn against the c/r, turned K8 and just called still a little bit wary of a set, made top 2 on the river, you slow down so he just jams hoping that you have a hand exactly like you do and you pay it off Title: Re: what to do? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 27, 2010, 03:18:41 PM I'd have bet a bit bigger on the turn, 170ish. This is really gross 'cos I think its exactly what he'd do with KQ. Do you think he makes it to the turn with many KKxx or QQxx combos apart from those with 9T or 96? I really don't think that he can have a big wrap thats missed because wouldn't most of them would be happy to 3bet and get it in on a rainbow board considering that you don't have to have a set/2pr to c/r this board? I think the most likely scenario is that he flopped top pair with a KQ8x hand and got stubborn against the c/r, turned K8 and just called still a little bit wary of a set, made top 2 on the river, you slow down so he just jams hoping that you have a hand exactly like you do and you pay it off yeah I thought exactly this, flop C/R is pretty bad this deep imo. once again though its so hard to fold when they rep such thin value range, but seems like a really retarded spot to bluff fpr this exact reason Title: Re: what to do? Post by: GreekStein on August 27, 2010, 03:29:40 PM Pretty sure against a random, snapping his dick off is a +EV play here.
Title: Re: what to do? Post by: GreekStein on August 27, 2010, 03:30:12 PM in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot.
Title: Re: what to do? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 27, 2010, 03:47:12 PM in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot. Im so tiled by this hand its actually unreal i havent really played since Title: Re: what to do? Post by: DMorgan on August 27, 2010, 05:59:34 PM in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot. Would be interested to know your reasoning behind this? Title: Re: what to do? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 27, 2010, 10:51:33 PM in fact, looking at it again, i prob beat him into the pot. Would be interested to know your reasoning behind this? Ok, I folded at the time, and since I clicked the fold button I cant think of why i folded, Im pretty sure its a call because I think he checks back MOST of his better 2p hands, its a missed straight draw every day imo (he'd just lost a bgish pot to me and was a bit tilty) He showed 6TJA fwiw idk if im being a bit results orientated but i never fold so shocked i did here. Also the flop c/r is bad this deep aswel imo Title: Re: what to do? Post by: DMorgan on August 27, 2010, 11:31:29 PM wow, snap sit thsi guy for life?
Title: Re: what to do? Post by: Dubai on August 27, 2010, 11:50:43 PM 3bet or fold pre
As played call flop As played check turn Title: Re: what to do? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 28, 2010, 12:16:26 AM 3bet or fold pre As played call flop As played check turn yes. 100%. Im terrrrrrrible :( |