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After getting a lot of stick for only interviewing americans so far on my blog I've finally done one with a brit. His name is Michael Piper, a PLO pro. He plays a bunch live in london including at the international and empire and he final tabled EPT San Remo.

He also has the best moustache in poker (sorry RED-DOG)

Link: http://daleroxxu.blogspot.com/2010/08/interview-with-michael-wazz-piper-plo.html (http://daleroxxu.blogspot.com/2010/08/interview-with-michael-wazz-piper-plo.html)
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hope u guys enjoy it!

Has he had any decent massages recently?

 ;popcorn;



Liked the interview, very interesting/funny guy! :)up

Great interview, nice work.

Meh! Bum fluff.

Very good interview.... seems like a top guy.
 

Is currently the subject of some shady behaviour over on 2+2 http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/163/staking-selling-shares/ept-san-remo-package-742434 (owes $130k to backers that he won in April)

Just read the thread and WOW, the dude is coming up with a lot of excuses that many of us on blonde have seen before....

sell the tash to the investors

camel is on the ball again as per norm

i played with this guy and his mates at dtd 2/2 plo cash during pstars week 2/3 months ago.

they all sat well deep stacked and never put a chip in the pot. they just sat and folded for 2 hours then went to nandos and left their stacks to the annoyance of the rest of the table.

i have played a lot of plo live and there is no way he can be a pro unless he was just having a beano with his mates after binking the ept $$.

when i saw the tv ept episode i said to my wife proudly" oh look love, i played with him a couple of weeks ago".
i read that thread on 2+2 and just feel sick. I just love playing live poker and have met so many good friends playing but this kind of stuff really tilts me.
wow
proper kush that i actually posted summint

TASCHTASTIC!

WAZZOCK!

Wow, just wow at that thread on 2+2.

I hadn't read it since the massage episode which was lol ridic.

But the latest turn events is just stomach wrenching. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the remaining investors got stiffed.

When I went deep in the wsop Harrahs fcked up my wire transfer and it took a couple of weeks to sort out.

Similarly if you pay foreign cheques into a uk bank acct it often takes up to a month for them to put cash in your acct.

But to take over 4 months to pay out investors is so shady and the excuses are getting out of hand.

Well done Tommo getting paid, did you have inside info there might be trouble?

Just as Greeky says, its all starting to look very familiar. I watched Dalleroxxus interview before I saw the thread and even then I saw a few warning signs, ie. he had a very cavalier attitude to bankroll management.

I don't know the guy, but the fact he was a respected 7000+ post mod on 2+2 reaffirms why I am never going to buy a % in someone again, you just cant trust people. In this instance it seems more a case of once he got the money and realised he had sold such a big % away he didnt want to part it, rather than a premeditated grim (still no excuse though). He probably had the best intentions in the world but money does that to people, the worse thing that can happen to some people is they get rich.

I was sat at a cash table at DTD a few months back (think it was the Pokerstars thing) when this clown walked by looking like something out of a Showaddywaddy tribute band with his girlfriend. He pauses as they pass the table and points to a couple of young lads sat next to me. His girlfriend then stops as he scurries away, she then proceeds to lay into these 2 guys about money they seem to owe her boyfriend. She threatens to call police, the management and at one point I am sure she mentioned Tony Soprano. the young lads answers ranged from the money was sent to it wasn't me a big lad did it and ran away. After she left as they spoke to each other I heard the immortal lines "Railtard told me he had sent the money!!"


LOL multi level grimmaments. Poker players eh? what a stinking bunch......

Did you notice the bit where he has listed the payouts,the guy who is due 91k at the end of his he put FML,thought that was a bit strange and he still hasn't been paid.It's getting a bit ridic the amount of grimmings/cheating that is popping up all over the place.

I had a tip off, I mean it was nothing solid and certainly nothing I would risk posting as it could ruin an innocent persons reputation, however, it meant I was concerned enough to chase up the money.

I dunno why he hasn't paid up yet. I'm not going to read the thread on 2+2.

I stayed with him in Vegas and he didn't seem the type to scam, I mean, he was quite generous with his money.

It is weird he hasn't paid his backers yet, I think it's because he's so lazy that he can't be bothered to send them the money.

generous with "his money" lol. It's not his money.

Blatch was generous with money too

Wtf, he won big, partied, and that led to a snowball of payment issues. He's made honest mistakes, nothing more.

Do you honestly think at this point Pipers post that he's "too tired" to answer the points made in the thread is acceptable?

He is simply taking the piss now.

How would you feel if this guy owed you 20 grand?

removed from reality much?

Sometimes nice guys are c*nts too

Yes, of course he can be tired, but the post is symptomatic of the off hand and lackadaisical way he has treated the whole issue imo.

Don't get me wrong, he's handled it badly, if I were closer to him i'd be giving him a grilling, but also helping him to sort it out, all this talk of him ripping people off is way off the mark, he's lazy, a bit foolish, and clearly unskilled in international banking, other than that a great guy, and not a con man like blatch, in any way whatsoever.

If you had come this forum 6 months ago, I would say 99% of posters on Blonde would have described Blatch as a "great guy".

In no way am I saying Piper has scammed his investors, but this should have been sorted out months ago.

Dude I can understand if you said 10 days. It prob took me prob that long to pay people when I'd cashed in Ireland because of a combo of lazyness / trying to find good rate / being let down by someone who told me to hold the money for them for a swap but 4 months is an absolute ridic pisstake.

The Camel is right ofc. Wazz has treated investors with an arrogant disregard, I chopped an mtt once upon a time and owed someone a good chunk. I felt embarrassed every day I'd not sent them their money as obviously it was my responsibility to do so. Piper could have sorted this much sooner. Any decent, moral person would be ashamed to have conducted themselves the way he has, it is only when his position becomes completely untenible that he relents.

Reposted from another forum, a post from someone close to and talking to Mike, says it all really!


Ok so I'm good friends with Mike but I also feel a really strong affiliation with the community that has helped me grow as a poker player and a person; so I hope I can give as much of an unbiased opinion as possible. I feel I can add some things as I know a lot about things that haven't made this thread.

Firstly the things that Mike has done wrong;
-The massage: Although it's in the past now in terms of the actual argument, he and I had a very big debate/argument about the moral and ethical issues involved here. I told him in no uncertain terms that I think he was 100% in the wrong and theres no excusing it. He has since changed his opinion from 'I'm in the right' to 'I was in the wrong, but I feel given the circumstances and information available to me at the time I made the right choice'. Whatever, I don't really think that's correct but at least he has accepted responsibility for what he did and it's been sorted.

-The original banking problems; The reason why people outside of the UK didn't get paid to start with was because it would cost him a very high amount of money to get to people (I think it was something along the lines of 1300 to transfer 20k abroad (don't quote me on that, but it certainly was a big number). Obviously he should look for other ways to remedy this problem, which is what really makes me angry. Yesterday I was pretty much yelling at him with a conversation along the lines of these;

Me; Ok, so when you won the money did you contact stars support [to pay people online as many had requested] to explain that you'd just made a big score in a stars sponsered event and had investors to pay, perhaps asking them if you had make a very large withdrawal and transfers to some players?

Mike; No

Me; Did you walk in to your high street bank, sit down with your bank manager and ask him what your options were?

Mike; No

Me; WTF were you doing for 4 months?

I got really angry here because Mike makes out as if he's been trapped into a corner with the banking issues but he's done **** all to try and look for other options. He also said that he 'couldn't find anyone who knew enough about poker AND the UK banking system' to talk through his options with. Well mate, you've had 4 months to find that person and I'm sure they exist.

-The way he's handled this thread;
This is probably the most stupid of the lot. No matter what the drama has been, he's been annoyed that bystanders like Zima and Rupert have come in and 'assinated' his character. This is obviously really annoying, as Mike can't seem to understand that not only area there people waiting for money, but the Zima's and Rupert's of the world are (were) potentially his next investors. A good business decision would have been to make everything in this thread much more transparent and sound a hell of a lot more apologetic in every post he made.

What Mike isn't;
-He isn't shady
-He isn't a thief
-He isn't broke

I know there isn't much proof I can give you for these things (but luckily this isn't a trial). All I can say is that I'd vouch my reputation (which must be worth something by this point) that people will get paid (either by receiving cash or from his estate because i'll kill him if this ****ing thing goes on any longer). I know that if you've already made your minds up then this isn't going to help much, but it's the only assurance I can give.

One final thing. As far as I know all of the investors who are yet to be paid have accepted that they'll be getting their money at EPT london, as of right now there isn't a lot more Mike can pysically do to get the people their money. Not that I think that it should stop people letting their feelings known, but I do feel that that fact has been forgotten slightly over the last page or two.

Sorry for the random splurge of writing, I basically just threw it up straight onto my keyboard so there's not a lot of structure. If anyone wants anything clarified then I'll be happy to do so.

Cliffs;
Mike is a moron and this should have been sorted (or at least much more of an effort should have been made to get it sorted)
In my humble opinion he is neither shady or a thief; although I can certainly see why people in this thread may think that.

Met mike and played in that 2/2 PLO game with him at DTD. He always seemed ok to me, pretty quirky guy but fun to play with. A couple of friends know him very well and would certainly vouch for him being an honest guy (for what thats worth, some of you have made up your minds already) so I'd do the same.

He has obviously handled this badly but I think its important that people know how difficult it actually is to get these sort of sums overseas through high street banks. It really is ridiculous what they charge you for this sort of service. I agree that its unacceptable that its taken this long to get it sorted but nobody will be out of pocket after EPT london.

A hypothetical question.

I owe someone in America 50k from a stake where I happened to cop.

He wants a CHAPS/SWIFT transfer or whatever it's called.

My bank charges my 1k for it.

Who should pay the 1k?

he should pay it.

imo other transfer methods should be looked into. Paying that much vig when he could just mail a cheque or send online with stars' permission is ridiculous.

His best option would obviously have been to inform stars of the thread and they would have authorised a big deposit and some big transfers.

As for your question, it depends whether or not you think that costs of money movements are included in the stake. I'm not an experienced staker so I wouldn't know but I think that mike having to pay 100% of the fees out of his own pocket is unfair

LOL at the guy trying to defend someone who holds back someones payment for 4-5 months to make 4% vig,are you dumb or what ??

Get it paid to stars account, xfer to backers stars accts.

Moorman was owed 850k by puffinmypurp took no time to pay that way.

If that's directed at me then fair enough, but I have my reasons, and Mike hasn't held back someone's payments for 4-5 months for 4% vig, and half true statements like this are part of the reason I got involved, you should really read something fully before you comment, and make retarded and inaccurate statements like the one above.

Mike has fooked up, but retards like you jumping on the hate bandwagon should realise you're actually so much lower than someone who made some honest mistakes it's ridiculous.

I won't defend Mike any more though, he really has to make some statement, at least to the forum he offered the stake to, prove he's paid in full, get the unpaid backers to make post they are happy with the agreed payment terms or risk losing his already battered reputation.

Personally I would defend someone again, if I thought they deserved it, and honestly I still think Mike deserves a chance, he won a lot of money, that can cause errors of judgement, and he's already admitted to making mistakes, what he doesn't need is forums full of random haters, for fooks sake he made a pile of cash for these people, and that is totally different from someone like 'Blatch' who made no money for anyone.

i can see the issue here

its old school poker v webtard poker

1.interweb pro cops live seat in online satty.
2. he sells himself to insure profit of satty.
3. he cops a bundle.
4. he is so web focussed he cant write a cheque or operate in the real world.
5. old school live players get the hump even tho its f all to do them ie.(me)
6. online players think is fine to mess people about

Sorry, I posted this as a joke expecting to spit over there keyboard.

When I stayed with Mike in Vegas I had no problem getting on with him in a 1 to 1 situation, we played a fair bit of chess etc. Otherwise he is one of the most selfish people I have ever met, he cares about no-one but himself. By the end of the trip even our butler said he wanted to give him a nice knuckle sandwich.

He will read this thread and have no emotion.

Can you tell me which part of this direct quote from him on 2+2 am I misreading

"I dont have any banking issues right now. May as well reveal that my plan is and has been since vegas to sell the live money I have to people in london at a vig and to give my investors half the vig as its their money Im selling. If I dont sell enough money Ill send cheques out"

I don't understand why decent, reasonable people, who happen to have differing opinions, have to call each other names.

I wouldn't have put dumb if I wasn't mortal when I posted but no excuse and I agree not neccesary.

Well said. Thank you.  ;tightend;

Depends.  Using all reasonable methods I normally use the rule that the sending party pays any fees/charges but if he wants it in another way that is going to cost more then he should pay.

Was in a cash game last night at the International and I asked if he played here. People said yeah and the conversation turned to him. After that all people said was what a tight person he was. One guy said, 'He's definitely got the money, he's probably just playing it himself'.

Apologies to all on blonde for the name calling, I think I can say that I was only defending a mate, and the some of the allegations and comparisons were clearly unfair. I'll  be more respectful to the forum in future though.

Mike has now replied on other forums and I think it's safe to say, that although he acted in a way I wouldn't want any friend to act, he clearly is not out to scam anyone and is far from the shady character some would like to make him out to be.

If anyone would like the links I can post them, or PM me.

Thanks  :)up

Posted on 2+2 thread from Michael:

I don't know where to start, so I'll just start typing.

The first thing I'd like to do is to say sorry, sorry to all the investors, my friends, 2p2ers in general, and the mods.

Over the last 4 months, I've made quite a few mistakes. I am aware that I can't prove this, so all I can do is explain what's happened and my intentions with as much transparency as possible, and work on getting everyone their money asap.

Apart from those who wanted money live in vegas, my intention was to pay everyone out online, as that's how they'd invested. My initial plan was to wire ~ $200k over to vegas when I got there, so that I could pay people out in cash, and sell it for online money so that I could pay everyone out.

As explained earlier in this thread, that turned out to be impossible due to my bank, who made me jump through some quite difficult hoops. After 3 weeks (I arrived in vegas on the 8th of july), I was finally able to wire money over, but only £25k/day. After hearing many horror stories about wiring to the Rio cage, I decided to wire it to a friends bank account at wells fargo. When the money hit, which took 4 days, the staff at wells fargo had to order the money, which took another 3 days. The result was that I only saw the first £25k (~$37k at the time iirc) in the first week of july, by which point many of my investors had left town.

I actually had to borrow ~$2k from john eames, $5k from gavz101 (paid back), $5k from rsmig (paid back), $5k from michael binger (paid back) and $10k from kevin macphee (arranged to be paid back in london), in order to play the events I'd agreed to play with other investors and pay out the investors who I'd promised money to.

When vegas ended and I hadn't been able to pay everyone out, I had to come up with a new plan. At this point I did not consider my options, which I now see was a big mistake. I wanted to stick to the same plan of paying people out online, and for the benefits of my investors, I wanted to make them some money to make up for the lateness.

This was the same plan as I had in Vegas. When considering this plan, I looked at it from the angles of convenience - being able to pay my investors out online - and profitability - make both myself and my investors some money. I did not look at it from the point of view of potential shadiness. Why? It just didn't occur to me. I can't explain it much better than that, and I'm aware I can't prove it, but my intention was never to scam anyone or to have anything I did look like I was scamming. I realize now that not telling my investors of my plan makes it look like I was trying to scam them, and can only put it down to a lack of foresight and failing to consider what it would look like. Again, I can't prove this at all, but it's the truth of the situation.

This is the list of investors I currently owe money to, and how much:

zedd: $18k
achen: $21k
allinlife: $23k
blopp: $91k
martoncz: $23.3k

I also owe $10k to kevin macphee, $5.65k to vanessa selbst, and $2.3k to cmyr.

I have enough money to pay everyone out, but unfortunately I cannot prove that today. I moved house about 3 weeks ago, during the move some papers got lost, some of those papers were the bank statements for my foreign currency accounts. I can't access those foreign currency accounts through online banking. Today is a bank holiday in the UK, and the foreign currency department is currently closed. I am told that they will be open from 9AM uk time (4AM est i believe), at which point my plan is either to go to the bank (literally downstairs from new place) and provide bank statements that I can take a photo of and upload, and/or to call them and have my respected roommate gavz101 listen in to the conversation. If this is not enough for anyone, I am entirely happy to invite anyone in london to come to my new place and listen in.

I am looking into how to pay out all my debtors asap. I am in the process of getting my stars deposit and transfer limits increased, blopp has asked that I give the money to a friend of his in london, and one other investor previously wanted to be paid out when he came to london next month - fyi that is still an option for you, but I will work out a way to pay you online in any case.

I did not expect any of this to happen. I'm extremely disappointed in myself. I've worked hard for the last 4 years at building and maintaining a reputation on 2p2, and to see it crashing and burning right now kills me. I'm ashamed of my idiocy and irresponsibility. I'm sorry again to all of my investors, especially those who I've taken this long to pay out, who have showed enough faith in me to invest only to see their faith misplaced.

Is that proof then this is not another scam just a mistake by somebody who never got round to paying up an so this thread has been a waste of time an everyone owes him an apology now ?

the massage thing is just lolcom

huh? shit shoulda been sorted in 4 days, at best this is a complete joke. would still be no surprise if the money has gone, this foreign bank accounts stuff smells a bit fishy to me.

I remember talking to one of his backers in manchester whie he was on final table, he said he was coaching him an may also be backing him an i think he had 20% share wt him im sure when i go to dtd i miight find out more as be interesting to hear if he got paid! But i suppose the usaul rule applies innocent till proven gullty!

OOPS think he % i gave is wrong but the rest is almost the truth ! probs 5 or 10% spring 2 mind now bt what the heck principle still the same.

Theres literally zero chance that mike is trying to scam people. That bandwagon is riding pretty low.

someone owes me 91k and says its diff. to get to me i fly over and get it personally none of this 4 month wait bullshit.

What price will lay me at least some of the money has gone and at least one investor has to wait longer than stated for his cut?

guy in my cash game last night who will remain nameless, and knows mike said he was pretty convinced he was using the money to play with.

thought this thread was pointless at the start but just for pure comical reasons an boredom felt compelled to get involved even though i knew it was morally wrong, espically  after a long hard summer! 1/100 if i was bieng generous !

Where can i read the massage story? Pm a link if neccessary please.

It's all in the 2+2 staking thread.

I'm not privy to the details of this deal - I'm not an investor so I won't be running the book, just stating that I have every confidence that mike will have everybody paid as outlined in his recent post.

As I understand it.....

He was staked for side events too which he didnt play because he finalled the main event so the stake money for that was owed back to the investors.
Going into the final day he is complaining of a sore shoulder, gets a 200 euro massage, charges it to the investors from the money that was unused as he felt it benefitted them as well that it would help him to play better.
At first the investors didnt care because he scooped and it was only 200 euro but a few others that werent involved spoke up saying he cant be getting extras and charging it to the stake as it could be open to abuse.
Stakee disagrees at first until some of the investors privately declare they werent happy.

Read about the massage story what a pillock! Why would someone expect people to pay for his massage what a brass neck the lad has. If I was an investor and was going to pick up a big score I'd still be quietly seething.

mmmm Thread taking new direction now, nothing like new stories  to freshen up the day.

ICWUDT

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I can't wait until December 25th?

Lol

I see what you did there.

reds is better

200 Euro massage? WTF

surely extra's included.

This is a bit in the vein of "bloke down t'pub told me..."

Did the guy tell you what evidence he had that this was the case, or how well he knew Michael? Or was he just bitching, stirring, or guessing?

I can understand why blonde regs are conditioned to assuming the worst in these type of matters, given the recent blatch stuff etc. But a great deal of what has been said on this thread (like the post I quoted) is merely dealing in rumours, speculation, guesses and hearsay. And it's not very fair on Michael. Neither is it very helpful. The thing is, when Greekstein posts this it is going to be read by a lot of people. He is a respected poster here (and from what a lot of people have told me he is a top guy too) so at least some people will assume that Greekstein is personally endorsing what this random guy has said to him, and will make judgements accordingly. When really there is no substance behind what he says, other than just some random bloke telling him "Michael Piper you say? Yes,  I know him ... I'll bet he's using that money to play poker with".

I know Michael really well. He is not broke. He has the money and everyone will get paid. He has acted like a complete idiot in this obviously. And he has destroyed his reputation in the process (on 2+2 especially where he was pretty well-respected as a poster, coach and moderator). It's all his own fault of course. He has been lazy, irresponsible, and incompetent. And he's made some serious errors in judgement (for example massagegate was lol really, but it shows how unintentionally clueless and inappropriate he can be). But he has not ripped anyone off, is not going to do so, and he has never had any intention of doing so. He is just one of those people who has a tendency to act in totally inappropriate ways, get carried away, and fuck things up by accident. He is a really nice guy, but he makes a mess of things from time to time just because, well ... he fails a bit at life. I even use the expression "you've done a Michael" when he does this sort of thing. Honestly, he is one of the good guys. He is, however, also a doofus. We all know someone like this I'm sure, and many of us (me included) have a bit of the doofus in us ourselves.

The most important thing is that Michael realises that he has fucked up, and he is doing everything he can to make sure it's all put right as soon as possible. Go easy on him. Instead of slagging him or hating him, think of him like he is your slightly clueless 16 year old brother who keeps fucking things up for himself and others, but whose heart is in the right place, and is learning (slowly) how to deal with life.

Well this is what happens when you do something wrong in life an you have to say sorry an move on an try to gain people's respect an trust again. Showing remorse is always a good way to start an becoming a trusting human being is the second an who knows all the haters will become better human beings an also learn to forgive an move on!

Fix the shit out first no?

Remorse it up at any juncture, but you don't get any remorse points from random internet people for remorse shown prior to the fixing of the shit.

Of COURSE! obviosly ........!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! Top writeage, Sir.

3 differant people wrote here tikay! Which bit did u like the best ! X

The one with balance. ;)

Hi guys. I've paid everyone off now, and fwiw I'm still left with a healthy bankroll.

Made this post on 2+2 hopefully to underline the whole issue. I would like to be able to rejoin the live UK poker community and not have people judging me for a lack of complete information or gossip.

'So now everyone is paid off.

I'd like to repeat that I'm sorry for letting people down. A lot of people defended me, and while that fills my heart with warmth, I'm disappointed in myself that I've made other people look bad.

I'd like to say sorry publicly to all the moderators and powers that be on 2p2 for showing me patience.

I completely understand the attitude in this forum, fwiw. The poker community has been through a number of scandals and traumas in the last couple of years, and with the benefit of hindsight I can see why this looked so bad. I bear absolutely no ill will towards anyone who said anything in the slightest big negative about me, either publicly here or in private.

I would like to repeat that there was never anything scammy going on in my head whatsoever. To make up for the delay in paying out my investors, I wanted to surprise them with a little extra money, and didn't see anything wrong with making a bit for myself at the same time. When deciding to proceed with this plan, I just didn't consider it from all the angles.

For what it's worth, I did contact all my creditors and asked them whether they were happy to wait until all the stuff in London rolled round, and if they said no, I would have found a way to pay them before. They were all happy with the plan, so I saw no reason not to go ahead.

At the end of the day, in my mind, this was a mix of a lot of bad luck, from not being able to receive my winnings in my stars account to the bank screwing me over repeatedly, and a healthy dose of incompetence, lack of foresight, irresponsibiliity and arrogance on my part. I've learnt that the most important thing when it comes to debts and investors is to put them first.'

Would like to say thanks to jackinbeat, numptyd and dmorgan for standing up to me.

Would also like to say sorry publicly to luckyscrote - thanks for putting up with me this summer, I wasn't aware of how selfish I was at the time. I had a really good time in that house this summer btw.

Awesome tash!

I won't ask you to provide me with that name, but please be aware that he was very wrong.

My intentions were never to scam anyone or hold anyone's money for ransom: I'd suffered a lot of logistical problems in moving the money round without having me or the investors taking a hit in the form of charges, so to say sorry to my investors, I wanted to surprise them with a little extra profit.

I've been a professional poker player for over 4 years now, have been put in many compromising situations, and have come out of all of them with my head held high that I did the right thing. I have been coaching people, both live and online, for the last 3 years, and have never done anything the remotest bit dodgy in that time, again despite having many opportunities. I would like to make the bold claim that I have over 50 ex-students who would be willing to say publicly that, aside from being somewhere between a good and great coach, I have never done them bad in the slightest; one ex-student asked for his money back (and I gave it to him) after I missed a couple of appointments ~2.5 years ago, when I was going through personal troubles, and other than that, I highly doubt one single person would even be willing to say privately that I had acted in the slightest bit dodgy. I've also escrowed something in the region of $30k for other people and had the privileges of mod powers on 2+2 for about 6 months I think, and never abused those powers.

NumptyD summed it up well. I do and always have had the best of intentions, but from time to time show a lack of judgement.

Please get your facts straight before you make posts like this.

I do not look like anything out of a Showaddywaddy tribute band, whatever the hell that might be!

Partly relevant, but that was my ex-girlfriend. Not going into details publicly, but she believed he had scammed her new boyfriend. Out of loyalty to her (and her new boyfriend, who is one of the nicest guys in poker that I know and I'm sure you'd all agree), I pointed out who it was when she asked. I was not involved in any way shape or form other than helping identify the potential perp.

I've only just seen this reply as I went away just after it was posted.

You're probably right that I shouldn't have psoted that and I apologise if I caused any offence to Wazz or anyone else. I wasn't starting it as fact of course, which is clear, just something that someone in my game said.

Glad the whole situation is resolved.

I won't disclose the guy's name but the next time I see him at the Vic or elsewhere I'll remind him that he was very wrong.

Hope my post didn't offend you too much.

Not at all, like I said in that 2+2 post, I completely understand the attitudes of everyone who commented on the topic, and can especially understand why people on blonde would be quick to jump to conclusions. I bear no ill will towards anyone who had anything negative to say about me publicly or privately.

LMAO

Hi Wazz

I dont know you or what happened but thought i would say hello.

Apologies my bad I agree you do not look like anything out of a Showaddywaddy tribute band.
(http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/michael_piper_day1b_nottingham.jpg)




I was thinking of The Darts
(http://www.amazingdarts.com/homedarts.jpg)

The Amazing Darts, if you don't mind

 In 1978 Darts sold more concert tickets in the UK than any other artist.

 ;danafish;

I think Eck and wazz need to sit down and talk

under the moon of love

Everyone all paid out ?

yes. read the last 2 pages of the thread u plum.

also, irrelevant quote.

love u charra.

I'll take it