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Title: what do i do on the river? Post by: outragous76 on September 10, 2010, 05:11:17 AM PokerStars Game #49394464806: Tournament #329010874, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2010/09/10 4:04:24 UTC [2010/09/10 0:04:24 ET]
Table '329010874 21' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: nagyzoltan77 (139994 in chips) Seat 2: outragous76 (261549 in chips) Seat 3: nutrinho87 (184192 in chips) Seat 4: xxxrigger (51099 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: Daniel_Gbg (134863 in chips) Seat 6: ace1won (64057 in chips) Seat 7: beauW (112111 in chips) Seat 8: atakmortal (73528 in chips) Seat 9: Bambi-Naps (91138 in chips) nagyzoltan77: posts the ante 400 outragous76: posts the ante 400 nutrinho87: posts the ante 400 xxxrigger: posts the ante 400 Daniel_Gbg: posts the ante 400 ace1won: posts the ante 400 beauW: posts the ante 400 atakmortal: posts the ante 400 Bambi-Naps: posts the ante 400 outragous76: posts small blind 2000 nutrinho87: posts big blind 4000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to outragous76 [4c Kc] xxxrigger: folds Daniel_Gbg: folds ace1won: folds beauW: folds atakmortal: folds Bambi-Naps: folds nagyzoltan77: calls 4000 outragous76: calls 2000 nutrinho87: checks *** FLOP *** [Qc Ah 8c] outragous76: checks nutrinho87: checks nagyzoltan77: bets 12000 outragous76: calls 12000 nutrinho87: folds *** TURN *** [Qc Ah 8c] [Jh] outragous76: checks nagyzoltan77: bets 24000 outragous76: calls 24000 *** RIVER *** [Qc Ah 8c Jh] [Ac] Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: pleno1 on September 10, 2010, 09:03:54 AM PokerStars Game #49394464806: Tournament #329010874, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2010/09/10 4:04:24 UTC [2010/09/10 0:04:24 ET] Table '329010874 21' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: nagyzoltan77 (139994 in chips) Seat 2: outragous76 (261549 in chips) Seat 3: nutrinho87 (184192 in chips) Seat 4: xxxrigger (51099 in chips) is sitting out Seat 5: Daniel_Gbg (134863 in chips) Seat 6: ace1won (64057 in chips) Seat 7: beauW (112111 in chips) Seat 8: atakmortal (73528 in chips) Seat 9: Bambi-Naps (91138 in chips) nagyzoltan77: posts the ante 400 outragous76: posts the ante 400 nutrinho87: posts the ante 400 xxxrigger: posts the ante 400 Daniel_Gbg: posts the ante 400 ace1won: posts the ante 400 beauW: posts the ante 400 atakmortal: posts the ante 400 Bambi-Naps: posts the ante 400 outragous76: posts small blind 2000 nutrinho87: posts big blind 4000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to outragous76 [4c Kc] xxxrigger: folds Daniel_Gbg: folds ace1won: folds beauW: folds atakmortal: folds Bambi-Naps: folds nagyzoltan77: calls 4000 outragous76: calls 2000 nutrinho87: checks *** FLOP *** [Qc Ah 8c] outragous76: checks nutrinho87: checks nagyzoltan77: bets 12000 outragous76: calls 12000 nutrinho87: folds *** TURN *** [Qc Ah 8c] [Jh] outragous76: checks nagyzoltan77: bets 24000 outragous76: calls 24000 *** RIVER *** [Qc Ah 8c Jh] [Ac] as played c/c i guess. Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: boldie on September 10, 2010, 09:14:50 AM dont think oppo will check behind most of the time (assuming he doesn't have a FH)? your hand smells of a flush draw to me...will be tricky to get any value from this.
Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: paulhouk03 on September 10, 2010, 10:31:33 AM donk value bet ftw
Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: pleno1 on September 10, 2010, 10:39:46 AM raise flop maybe? he limped innit.
Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: outragous76 on September 10, 2010, 11:48:39 AM As for raising flop, I thought his limp was weird. First time and I had 3 bet him last orbit. Wasn't sure what to put him on so played it small
Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: SuuPRlim on September 10, 2010, 03:33:10 PM donk value bet ftw yeah probs....although getting raised is about the most puke-inducing thing ever. I think if we think he hardly ever bluffs the river you can bet/fold....but I think bet folding these hands in these spots is pretty exploitable... I think I would Bet Call personally. (although CHK/CALLING seems fine aswel) I know this isnt the OP, but what do people think of bet/3betting the flop here? Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: pleno1 on September 10, 2010, 03:58:10 PM donk value bet ftw yeah probs....although getting raised is about the most puke-inducing thing ever. I think if we think he hardly ever bluffs the river you can bet/fold....but I think bet folding these hands in these spots is pretty exploitable... I think I would Bet Call personally. (although CHK/CALLING seems fine aswel) I know this isnt the OP, but what do people think of bet/3betting the flop here? I like it and that;s probably exactly what I do after he limps pre. Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: outragous76 on September 10, 2010, 04:41:47 PM just as a thought
this was so out of the ordinary (the limp) - i did consider AA as a potential holding, but discounted ths by the river (for obv reasons) that is why i played the hand relatively passively. Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: SuuPRlim on September 10, 2010, 05:01:39 PM just as a thought this was so out of the ordinary (the limp) - i did consider AA as a potential holding, but discounted ths by the river (for obv reasons) that is why i played the hand relatively passively. O yeah, fwiw I think the passive line here is absolutley fine. Might even be the best line, but hard to say cos these spots are just SO close. Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: DMorgan on September 10, 2010, 10:51:07 PM I'd lead the flop and check/jam the river
Title: Re: what do i do on the river? Post by: AlexMartin on September 11, 2010, 07:24:45 PM dont like pre, flop or turn tbh. as played i prolly fold, tonnes of flushes in our range and v few in his that would enable him to vbet worse (56cc only one?)
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