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Title: Line Check PLO Post by: SuuPRlim on September 19, 2010, 03:35:56 AM What would be everyone's "standard line" in a spot like this.
you open Kc Qc 9d 9h playing 250bb's deep in MP over an UTG raise. to 4bb BB (100bb's) + UTG (200bbs) call flop Qh 7c 6c POT:- 12.5bb Check. Check ??? Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: GreekStein on September 19, 2010, 04:01:47 AM bet
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: SuuPRlim on September 19, 2010, 04:41:51 AM bet a slightly deeper insight into the workings of mr greekstein would be cool :) Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: DMorgan on September 19, 2010, 05:46:43 AM I bet 10bbs because we have a top matcher and 4 puppy feet
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: Skgv on September 19, 2010, 12:21:00 PM Bet!
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 19, 2010, 12:26:51 PM I actually think I check-back in this spot because I would hate getting check-raised here.
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: Reyarn on September 19, 2010, 08:53:45 PM I bet about 3/4 of the pot and call any re-raise, we can re-evaluate on the turn depending which card comes especially if its a scare card.
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: GreekStein on September 19, 2010, 08:55:54 PM bet a slightly deeper insight into the workings of mr greekstein would be cool :) bet for information Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 19, 2010, 10:35:11 PM I actually think I check-back in this spot because I would hate getting check-raised here. The reason is that we can easily be check raised by Ac-Qx-Xc hands here that have us crushed but also T-9-8 w/club (or without) hands that we have crushed as well as sets or AAxx with nut clubs. The nines are good straight blockers here which mean I much happier to play a small pot than a huge pot when I don't have any nut outs. Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: stonecoldkiller on September 19, 2010, 11:17:55 PM Surely a bet here amirite?
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: GreekStein on September 19, 2010, 11:18:46 PM i prefer bet here most of the time
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: Woodsey on September 19, 2010, 11:23:31 PM i prefer bet here most of the time All the time, 2/3rds pot. Gotta give yourself a chance to win it there and then FFS, checking is way too weak......... Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: SuuPRlim on September 20, 2010, 12:58:12 AM For guys who say Bet, are we folding to a c/r, calling a c/r or 3betting a c/r?
For those who say check - what do we do on a) blank turns. b) club turns. c) non club 5/8/9 turns? Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: stonecoldkiller on September 20, 2010, 01:02:52 AM b/c for me
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 20, 2010, 01:59:42 AM If you're betting here, are you bet folding or bet calling? And more importantly why? I've not heard a single good argument.
Probably betting most turns if it's checked to me tbh, deffo clubs or 5 8 or 9 Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: DungBeetle on September 20, 2010, 01:02:41 PM I check back flop as you pretty much have to pass if check-raised as we are fairly deep. I bet all turns if checked around again.
Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: Woodsey on September 20, 2010, 10:28:08 PM If you're betting here, are you bet folding or bet calling? And more importantly why? I've not heard a single good argument. Probably betting most turns if it's checked to me tbh, deffo clubs or 5 8 or 9 Because to win be a long term winner in PLO you have to pick up lots of small pots like this. You have to a least try and pick it up and the odds dictate you probably will enough of the time to make it +EV. If we get raised no problem we can fold.......... Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 21, 2010, 01:08:41 PM If you're betting here, are you bet folding or bet calling? And more importantly why? I've not heard a single good argument. Probably betting most turns if it's checked to me tbh, deffo clubs or 5 8 or 9 Because to win be a long term winner in PLO you have to pick up lots of small pots like this. You have to a least try and pick it up and the odds dictate you probably will enough of the time to make it +EV. If we get raised no problem we can fold.......... But we have a medium strength hand, probably the best hand but it cannot withstand a check-raise in this spot, especially since we have a pair within our hand which also acts as blockers to a combi-draw which would (if the Ac is not in their hand) be one of the few things to c/r us that we would beat, albeit marginally. We can bet any turn if it's checked to us a second time anyway. Win small pots, sure whatever, but this is not a bet/fold or bet/call spot imo, therefore checking behind is fine. Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: Woodsey on September 21, 2010, 06:41:51 PM If you're betting here, are you bet folding or bet calling? And more importantly why? I've not heard a single good argument. Probably betting most turns if it's checked to me tbh, deffo clubs or 5 8 or 9 Because to win be a long term winner in PLO you have to pick up lots of small pots like this. You have to a least try and pick it up and the odds dictate you probably will enough of the time to make it +EV. If we get raised no problem we can fold.......... But we have a medium strength hand, probably the best hand but it cannot withstand a check-raise in this spot, especially since we have a pair within our hand which also acts as blockers to a combi-draw which would (if the Ac is not in their hand) be one of the few things to c/r us that we would beat, albeit marginally. We can bet any turn if it's checked to us a second time anyway. Win small pots, sure whatever, but this is not a bet/fold or bet/call spot imo, therefore checking behind is fine. I don't agree obv, you clearly play a lot tighter than me and that is probably the difference. I'm going to be taking my chances to pinch as many pots as possible given the chance....... Title: Re: Line Check PLO Post by: SuuPRlim on September 22, 2010, 03:27:56 PM by checking back, are we planning on folding on any turns?
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