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Interesting hand from a $1/2 cash game at the Venetian.

I've been at the table for a good few hours.  Stuart Hopkin was also at the table, but I now have his chips and he's gone to find Cos as standing next to him Stu will feel as though he's up for the day.

Anyway, the play at the table has been pretty poor - so I've fitted in well.  Nice friendly table though, and the banter's good.  One player who hasn't joined in the banter is a bloke in his mid-40s who's wearing a Full Tilt WSOP 2006 T-shirt and shades.  Stu had previously commented on his bet-sizing as he liked to bet 4x the pot on the flop and raise 12xBBs pre-flop.  He was obviously a pro.

Anyway, back to the hand in question.  I'm sitting with about $600 ($300 buy-in and I have Stu's chips now was well of course).  I have  Aspades  4s in the BB and decide to raise to $18 with 4  limpers behind me, including Mr WSOP 2006.  Two callers, including him.

The flop is a lovely  Ad 4c 2h

I lead out for $35 into the pot of about $60.  Mr WSOP 2006 calls, the other player folds.

Turn is a slightly unpleasant  3d - but I lead out again for about $80.  He calls pretty quickly.

The river is  6h - so doesn't really change anything.

But now looking at him, I have a bad feeling about the hand.  I decide to check and he bets about $100.  It screams that he has the straight, but I decide I have to call as I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn over a big ace here, even though his body language and that bet on the end is telling me he has the straight.


Thoughts?  Do you call the river, and what do you put him on?

check call is fine for me.

BTW "I'm sitting with about $600 ($300 buy-in and I have Stu's chips now was well of course).  I have     in the BB and decide to raise to $18 with 4  limpers behind me,"

you raise it up to 9x the BB from the BB with a4?

Obviously Mr WSOP is a much better player than you are. ;)

Also don't like the $35 bet..would like to see this nearer 40-45.

80 is fine'ish

Check pre.

Bet more.

Bet more.

Check call is fine.

He has A6.

A4 in the BB isn't a hand to be 9x'ing with pre.

The amounts are approximate, but close enough. 


So very true.

Would probably expect him to check behind the river with Ax, which i think would make up the majority of the range you could beat, he doesnt sound like the type to value bet thin at all, however, i would still expect him to value bet a set or a lower two pair, however i just cant see how these lower 2 pair hands would get to the flop turn and river.

Do what you like, it wouldnt make any difference, you ran sooo +EV out there it was silly.

GIVE ME BACK MY EV!

LOL - you should post your hand against me on here and your thinking behind it.  Was quite exquisite.

Ha ha!

Thats how well you ran! I couldnt even put the right hands action to the current hand! MBSFN to be sat next to me!

I hope he's got a straight

I hope he's got J9o and shows you when you nit-fold.

+1

And that he starts preaching to you.

I am extremely good at reads, as a live pro.

Call he had KQ off.

:D 

Close (but misinformed).

I called and said "I've got two pair" and showed my cards.  I asked him "You've got the straight, haven't you?", and he nodded and said "Yes" and tabled Ks Qs !!!  The dealer then had to explain that he didn't have a straight. 

Who said the cash games in Vegas were easy?

Wotever

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=46642.msg1231448#msg1231448

round the corner straights for the winnnn.

know you want river strat buttttttttt... hattttteeee the raise pre.

100% calling on river as played.

You win a pint for guessing the hand (or for being able to read) :D

Wait




so you had Stus money



LOLOLOLOLOLOL



go back to that.


rotflmfao


I'm not a big fan of the raise pre but if I do I bet mores on the flops.


edit and obv call riv with stu's money so we're not risking our own.

I hope you kept 2 separate piles of chips so you could use Stu's for situations such as this.

Villains stack size could majorly change this but assuming that he covers...

Against weak passive players that seem to be pretty common in these games, check pre is definitely the way to go. By raising here the most likely outcome is that you get a big pot when you're out of position with a hand that needs to flop pretty well to stand any heat.

Flop lead should be bigger too since we're looking to get it in vs Ax hands and even the ones that aren't stacking off, they're calling the flop for sure. I'd bet something like $48. As played the 3 shouldn't really change anything especially if you keep firing. He's certainly not going to put you on any 5x hand so if he liked his ace on the flop he probably still likes it. Your betsize of 80 into 130 is fine imo. So the pot is now 290 and I think you have the best hand almost always. If you're both deep I can't see him not raising the turn with a straight. Theres really no other way he's gunna get stacks in.

Definitely calling as played but I think I prefer a half pot river lead for 150. If he liked his ace on the flop and the turn he's probably not gunna fold for half pot but I think he might if you bet much bigger. His river betsize to me looks like a scared aces up with A3 being the most likely imo. A6 is definitely possible but in answer to the OP, no I don't think he has a straight here very often at all.

lol just read the results

Job centre at 9am

The guy did think he had the nuts though when he had King high so how are you actually able to read him lol

All the way to vegas and the man comes back with one story.

Is it about strippers, beers, good times in general?

No its about a hand of poker.

You my friend are not to go with that bunch again, yourself and the big fella are already pencilled in for the next GG tour.

I already told them that, I enjoyed it, but I need at least one person who is not completely addicted to poker. Mr Phillip's I wrongly thought based on previous trips away, may have been able to leave a poker table. I was wrong.

Me and Mr Pie have discussed going in early July for a week if you fun guys wanna get sheared?
The plan we had was one WSOP event, and the rest of the time any poker played would result in you having to pay for the other persons flight upgrade to upper on the return flight.

Early July? so that will be the main event you are playing then?

That's how we roll

Not playing the main event, just not knowing the dates!

Later on the better, as I want to go back to Marmaris end of May.

Just want to play a $1k -$2k event.

You interested in going around that time?

Shorn

To be fair, I was only playing because you were at that table...

Bish bash boshi wins weeeeeeeeeee

Makes no sense DUCY.

You were Cosesque.

No, I won.

Either of you two clowns ended up in the +++++ against me in Vegasssssss

Only because you'd spunked the lot off before we had a chance to win it...

Pipe down.

You can start chirping again in 4/5 years when you when your next comp.

[  ] U win

Now, now kids...I think the pictures you posted and trip report clearly prove that there were no winners on that trip.

Omg is that a direct attack on Kinboshi?!