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He hasn't been animalling too hard at this point, maybe 42/37 or something but hasn't really been 3 betting at all.  He tanked the flop a bit before calling.  Probs a straightforward fold but not sure why he went for the overbet other than for me to try outlevel myself?  I think he's vaguely aware of me probs thinks i'm a mediocre reg (spot on)

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SB ($16,827)
BB ($28,274)
UTG ($43,166)
UTG+1 ($35,709)
UTG+2 ($12,550)
MP1 ($8,195)
MP2 ($13,670)
CO ($3,683)
Hero ($25,218)

Dealt to Hero Q:spade: A:club:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $240, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $240, SB calls $180, fold

FLOP ($975) 2:heart: A:heart: 8:club:

SB checks, UTG+1 bets $960, Hero calls $960, SB calls $960

TURN ($3,855) 2:heart: A:heart: 8:club: Q:heart:

SB bets $2,475, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $2,475

RIVER ($8,805) 2:heart: A:heart: 8:club: Q:heart: 9:club:

SB bets $13,137 (AI), Hero

Seems a trivial fold this one.

def wdnt fold here

elaborate pls jones.

He means he would call.

if he has a flush I think he'd bet more on turn to shove the river easier. (pot to stack sizes) seems like he either . didnt bet bigger on turn because he wanted to overshove (have more fold equity) rivered something that improved his hand and decided to shove for value (j10?)

fwiw i realise that whatever he bets on turn will still lead to an overbet on the river.

would like a mtt reg to assign a range that he could potentially turn into a bluff. i.e hands with sd value.

Pretty quick fold I think. We don't beat very much of his value range at all and it seems to be a pretty strange spot to randomly bluff?

sorry for overposting here but what would moorman do with AxKh in this position? c/f?

if people are folding top two then surely better to turn hand into a bluff and get two pair hands to fold and if they have air then means we arent going to get bluffed off the pot that is like80% of stack.

if im looking at this the complete wrong way please say!

Should probably have mentioned that the other guy in the pot is a 31/4 pretty call happy fish which probs makes river more of a fold.

zzZ.

In this spot Moorman must put hero on a hand (I say must 'very' loosely as Moorman is about a billion levels above me) and it seems a very risky (bad?) spot to bluff.

I'd have thought Moorman's range is largely hands that beat us here.

His line looks like a flush.

He's good enough to know this.

I call because I hate being bluffed.

What does our line look like?

if you don't ever fold to moorman you'll probably be alright

i can def have the nuts and other flushes

I'd call against Moorman here because he thinks you should fold.

The only problem being that he probably knows you might call because he knows you think that he knows you should fold so wants you to call.

That being said, i'd still call.

Sure its Moorman, hes capable etc. What hand is he leading the turn 3way with a fish in the pot? only possible float is 45s, unless he turns Ax into a bluff (unlikely). I think the real question here is whether to fold the turn or fold the river.

thinly veiled, i folded, please see this and tell me what you had moomin because its bugging the shit out me post?

doubt moorman is donking turn 3way without a flush, gf OP

superbly put bh

yea id fold here

deffo, you and other guy have lots of flushes, hes not gonna try and move you off them. fold.