Title: puzzle this Post by: china mug on September 24, 2010, 06:55:49 PM solve this in 15 mins.......ure a genius
30 mins.......u can still sell your eggs or seed for loads of dosh 60 mins.......u cheated got frustrated and used google a guy gets 12 gold bars , but one is fake ,they all look and appear the same appart from the fake will weigh a little more or a little less than a real gold bar his onley way to find the fake is to weigh the bars.he has a weighing scales with no measurements just one side will go up or down if the bars are not the same weight.........he can only use the scales three times..... solve that bye the way the previouse puzzle was actualey a joke allso i see some good stuff comeing up at dtd.in keeping with wanting to see that club go from strenth to strenth as they do so much to help the poker community any one who has the managements ear at dtd please suggest they go for some sort of guinness book of records event....such as the furtherest card flicking record or tallest built card house, Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: gatso on September 24, 2010, 06:59:06 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult
Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: ripple11 on September 24, 2010, 07:38:10 PM This is not right. If one bar was fake, he needs to return to the seller and quote the Sale of Goods Act 1995. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 07:39:55 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult it took me about 12 seconds. am i thick? Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: gatso on September 24, 2010, 07:42:23 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult it took me about 12 seconds. am i thick? nah, you're 14:48 faster than a genius Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: EvilPie on September 24, 2010, 07:55:39 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult Go on then smart arse. What's the answer? Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: china mug on September 24, 2010, 08:07:02 PM as we all know poker players are the most honest upright members of our society , however saying ....i got it in 8 secounds.....or 12 secounds but not mentioning how it was solved might just possibly leed to some feeble minded soul from wondering did you realy.....imagen if you will
who wants to be a million are the million pound question ,all life lines used up chris tarrant asks , in the luton poker club who is a dead cert for borrowing a buy in to a 100 pound comp.....A the lady loo cleaner.....B the rent boy on the wall out side.....C the security guy freezing his nuts of in the yellow tardise Dthe staff tip box oooo chris that was eeeeasy i got it in 8....12..secounds.....give me the million ive got to get to a poker game 5 minuetes before it starts for the extra chips byeee call me pessamistic,i think they might just like to hear the answer before get your cheque Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: gatso on September 24, 2010, 08:12:33 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult Go on then smart arse. What's the answer? solve this in 15 mins.......ure a genius 30 mins.......u can still sell your eggs or seed for loads of dosh 60 mins.......u cheated got frustrated and Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 08:34:21 PM as we all know poker players are the most honest upright members of our society , however saying ....i got it in 8 secounds.....or 12 secounds but not mentioning how it was solved might just possibly leed to some feeble minded soul from wondering did you realy.....imagen if you will who wants to be a million are the million pound question ,all life lines used up chris tarrant asks , in the luton poker club who is a dead cert for borrowing a buy in to a 100 pound comp.....A the lady loo cleaner.....B the rent boy on the wall out side.....C the security guy freezing his nuts of in the yellow tardise Dthe staff tip box oooo chris that was eeeeasy i got it in 8....12..secounds.....give me the million ive got to get to a poker game 5 minuetes before it starts for the extra chips byeee call me pessamistic,i think they might just like to hear the answer before get your cheque lolz. maybe I ain't a genius after all - just typed out the method then realised we don't know if the fake is heavier or lighter than the others, and i can't make it cover all eventualities in less than 4 goes on the scale. Gonna give it some thought and hopefully suss it within 14 more minutes to retain some pride :D Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Eck on September 24, 2010, 08:40:59 PM Split the 12 into half and put on scales get rid of heavier six.
split six into half put on scales get rid of heavier 3. take 2 of 3 remaining and put on scales if they are same weight it is the other one if not one will be lighter than the other that is it. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 08:42:42 PM Split the 12 into half and put on scales get rid of heavier six. split six into half put on scales get rid of heavier 3. take 2 of 3 remaining and put on scales if they are same weight it is the other one if not one will be lighter than the other that is it. see my last post - we can't eliminate the heavier half at first weighing. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Eck on September 24, 2010, 08:44:03 PM oops should really read a question
Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 08:44:55 PM oops should really read a question wouldn't catch me skimming a problem and claiming to solve it in 12 seconds...... ;whistle; PS i've spent 5 minutes on it and giving up now Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 09:11:20 PM meh I can't leave it. question: if we add bars to piles of bars already on the scales does that count as the same go on the scales, or a separate go? if the former, i've sussed it. if the latter, i'm giving up again.
Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: WarBwastard on September 24, 2010, 09:16:00 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult Yes this...I was maybe nine seconds, but still much better than 15Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: geordieneil on September 24, 2010, 09:39:22 PM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult it took me about 12 seconds. am i thick? i must be more thickerer took me 15 seconds edit....then i re read the question :( Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: geordieneil on September 24, 2010, 09:54:49 PM ok think i got it.....u put 2 piles of 4 on the scales...and leave 4 to the side....if they weigh the same, u know the snidey bar is in the pile on the side....
oooohhh fk thats not it either Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2010, 09:55:08 PM I gave up after 5 minutes.
If you know the fake is lighter, then it's simple enough. But as it can be lighter or heavier I'm struggling to see how it can be done. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: WarBwastard on September 24, 2010, 09:56:34 PM ok think i got it.....u put 2 piles of 4 on the scales...and leave 4 to the side....if they weigh the same, u know the snidey bar is in the pile on the side.... oooohhh fk thats not it either No that is it..keep going Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2010, 10:25:44 PM ok think i got it.....u put 2 piles of 4 on the scales...and leave 4 to the side....if they weigh the same, u know the snidey bar is in the pile on the side.... oooohhh fk thats not it either No that is it..keep going OK, one side is heavier. Now what? You know the fake is amongst the 8. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 10:45:20 PM ok think i got it.....u put 2 piles of 4 on the scales...and leave 4 to the side....if they weigh the same, u know the snidey bar is in the pile on the side.... oooohhh fk thats not it either No that is it..keep going that's how i was doing it, but unless the first two piles are balanced I can't do it in 3 moves. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: gatso on September 24, 2010, 10:46:58 PM OK, one side is heavier. Now what? You know the fake is amongst the 8. take 2 from the lighter side and one from the heavier side. weigh against 3 coins, 1 from each of your original sets of 4 Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: Claw75 on September 24, 2010, 10:48:43 PM OK, one side is heavier. Now what? You know the fake is amongst the 8. take 2 from the lighter side and one from the heavier side. weigh against 3 coins, 1 from each of your original sets of 4 bars will deffo weigh more than coins tho Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: WarBwastard on September 24, 2010, 11:05:45 PM OK, one side is heavier. Now what? You know the fake is amongst the 8. take 2 from the lighter side and one from the heavier side. weigh against 3 coins, 1 from each of your original sets of 4 The OP's puzzle was using bars not the coins used in the answer you googled. To be fair I only got this so quickly cause I've heard it before too. Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: gatso on September 24, 2010, 11:20:22 PM that`s very true. I knew how to do it because we did all sorts of these things at school and they stick in my head (so I didn`t really solve it in 8 seconds, that`s just how long it took to remember). I did look online to see how to explain it better though and they use coins in the only decent explanation although reading through that just confused me
Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: AndrewT on September 24, 2010, 11:25:42 PM Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: gatso on September 24, 2010, 11:31:11 PM lolz. would be if I`d actually given an answer. glad I didn`t Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: geordieneil on September 24, 2010, 11:45:05 PM ok i finally got it, but it took me well over an hour......i won't spoil it, but i will give a clue that it is spliting them into 3 groups of 4
Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: kinboshi on September 24, 2010, 11:45:14 PM Read through the solutions. Very clever.
[ ] would have solved it in an hour Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: EvilPie on September 25, 2010, 01:33:33 AM what if I solve it in like, 8 seconds? not exactly difficult Go on then smart arse. What's the answer? solve this in 15 mins.......ure a genius 30 mins.......u can still sell your eggs or seed for loads of dosh 60 mins.......u cheated got frustrated and Didn't get frustrated at all mate. I looked at it for about 30 seconds and knew it was really difficult so thought I'd go for ridiculing liars who claimed they solved it in 8 - 15 seconds instead. This inflated my ego enough to let me get over the fact that I'll never know the answer and don't really care. Actually cancel that second bit. Anybody got a link to the answer? Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: mondatoo on September 25, 2010, 09:37:30 AM I'd also like the answer please
Title: Re: puzzle this Post by: kinboshi on September 25, 2010, 09:53:23 AM http://is.gd/fsc6h
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