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14ish ppl left 9 get paid  so 7 handed

blind 1k 2k with some antes

I am on the button with 99

I have 58k ish

utg+1 raises to 5100 ( its giblin Dunno how much his stack is 40k-60k dunno how he plays either but i think tightish)

cutoff flats ( he has <50k When i arrived on the table he had around 65k ish but been tight and looked like he was happy to fold his way into money also he is tez)

I ????



flat
3bet to 13-15k to induce a shove from original raiser and call
just jam



the sb and bb have yet to act
sb is randomer and doesnt have me covered
bb is ronaldo and has me covered

Kinda depends on the opener's range

If you have him on like 88+, AQ+ then I guess fold.

If you think he raises lighter than that then ship it.

what would u do if u had no info on the players and you just sat down on the table

Jammmmmmmmm

with no other info on the players i would fold. The risk to reward ratio isn't good for you in my opinion. If you shove and get called you will prob be in bad shape.

3 bet snap.

too shallow to induce plus ur hand aint gr8 against a 4b bluffing range. jam, not close.

Disagree with this. We're shoving for about 3-4 times what is in the pot which is about perfect here.

If I'd just sat down I'd ship, gotta assume the average person is raising wider than the range I said...

Never seen you comment on PHA where you haven't said fold

Sorry George. You're right though. I probably do need to raise my aggression levels as well as improve my poker ability. Thats why i occasionally have a little go at these PHA puzzles.
 In this particular case, i came to the conclusion that the two best options were either shove or fold. I wasn't too keen on the raise option because i felt that with hero's stack size raising and folding wasn't a good option and by shoving there would be a better chance of taking the hand down pre-flop.
 I went for the fold option for the following reasons:-
    UTG+1, who appears to be a tight player has shown strength by raising. He may, or may not have a good hand that he's prepared to go with. The Cut-off, who is apparently playing tight and hoping to fold into the money, has also shown strength by calling the initial raise. He may have a hand that he will lay down to hero's shove, but, there is a possibility that he's flat called with aces or kings to induce a re-raise. The blinds are still to act, so there is a chance that one of them could wake up with a better hand to shove with.
Anyway, i enjoy learning the errors of my ways when you all put me right so keep them coming folks. :)

strawberry and be happy to add 25% to your stack orrrrrrrr win a race v ak.

I would jam, though Giblin is kind of tight so it is probably close.

I think a jam is fine but its closer than people are suggesting. The tez guy flatting tips it to a jam I think.

i probably shove but I dont think it is a snap shove

FWIW - flatting isnt totally horrible here to set mine vs 2 villains, you have implied odds of 10:1 against 2 stacks. I think its a losing play in the long run in this spot, but for nittier players its not horrible and is certainly better than folding. (although def depends on who is to act behind.)

the second problem with flatting is self levelling when in comes 2 3 7 rainbow, but we at least have position.

I dont see how folding can ever be an option here?!

I agree with Guy, although shoving is prob the best move, surely flatting in position getting a good price with both stacks covering, plus all the dead blinds and antes is fine!?



With regards to the 2 3 7 flop, just see if Giblin does 'the tell'.



edit: also, Ronaldo is making any 2 up from BB and only shipping hands u have 2 outs against so even more valueeeeeeeee.

I never considered folding as that's bad


I decided to flat and see a flop in position

But the bb shoved and giblin called
I folded to the shoves

Wadey went mad saying he wouldn't of folded and would of jammed

I didn't think its a clear cut jam
Probs 60/40 jam

But I am a nit :)

Not that it makes a  lot of difference.
Good result BTW - well played.