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Title: 4bet sizing / shove $75 mtt
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2010, 09:54:47 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 140/280 Blinds 25 Ante (8 handed) - Full-Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

BB (t36101)
UTG (t13686)
UTG+1 (t11120)
Hero (MP1) (t21368)
MP2 (t11435)
CO (t32783)
Button (t28652)
SB (t37021)

Hero's M: 34.46

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif), A(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif)
2 folds, Hero bets t560, 1 fold, CO calls t560, Button raises to t2660, 1 fold, BB calls t2380, Hero raises to t21343 (All-In), 3 folds

Total pot: t8880


I've been very active, the guy who flat is a fish, guy who 3bet is pretty aggro, guy who cold calls is huuuuuge fish. Obv not folding, but is shoving better than 4bet calling. If I do 4bet smallish (which I guess I'd do if I was choosing to 4bet, the cold caller will call 100% of the time.) how does this help our decision?


Title: Re: 4bet sizing / shove $75 mtt
Post by: AlexMartin on October 01, 2010, 10:17:47 PM
pretty sure 4betting to a committing amount (like 8k) is better as most average players are then more capable of folding midpairs, when you jam they just think "ok he likely has AK, i call (w 99-JJ)". dont think its ever a spot where balance is important and jamming w AA/KK is prolly best..................

(forgot obv too shallow to get some spaz/induce from worse AX)



Title: Re: 4bet sizing / shove $75 mtt
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 50 Ante (9 handed) - Full-Tilt (http://www.flopturnriver.com/reviews/Online-Poker-FullTilt.php#converter) Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com)

MP2 (t6575)
MP3 (t35802)
CO (t7272)
Hero (Button) (t14773)
SB (t21413)
BB (t46230)
UTG (t39074)
UTG+1 (t30049)
MP1 (t53804)

Hero's M: 12.31

Preflop: Hero is Button with K(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif), K(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif)
1 fold, UTG+1 bets t1250, 1 fold, MP2 calls t1250, 2 folds, Hero raises to t5000, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t3750, MP2 calls t3750

Flop: (t16200) 6(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/heart.gif), K(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif), 8(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif) (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets t1525 (All-In), Hero calls t1525, 1 fold

Turn: (t19250) 3(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/spade.gif) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t19250) 4(http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerforum/images/smilies/diamond.gif) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t19250


guy with 75 is the guy who cold called.


Title: Re: 4bet sizing / shove $75 mtt
Post by: pleno1 on October 01, 2010, 10:28:48 PM
no money in mtt's everybody is solid.


Title: Re: 4bet sizing / shove $75 mtt
Post by: action man on October 02, 2010, 10:34:16 AM
no money in mtt's everybody is solid.

this is the 75 superstack tho, where the nittiest of nits come out to play including $26 grinders taking a shot


Title: Re: 4bet sizing / shove $75 mtt
Post by: pleno1 on October 02, 2010, 10:36:59 AM
I was being sarcastic lol... Fri/sat nights, so much value in the 26/75/55/10r