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Title: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 22, 2010, 03:37:00 AM
Its a semi-intersting spot wondering what people think


***** Hand History for Game 24897267888 ***** (Full Tilt)
$100.00 USD PL Omaha - Thursday, October 21, 09:48:55 ET 2010
Table Badgerglen (6 max ante deep) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: lildavefish ( $267.45 USD )
Seat 2: Omnicide1337 ( $192.90 USD )
Seat 3: nine_duck ( $299.60 USD )
Seat 4: sprediton ( $209.60 USD )
Omnicide1337 posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
lildavefish posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
nine_duck posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
sprediton posts ante of [$0.20 USD].
lildavefish posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Omnicide1337 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lildavefish [  Ac Jh 8s Tc ]
nine_duck raises [$4.30 USD]
sprediton folds
lildavefish calls [$3.80 USD]
Omnicide1337 raises [$17.00 USD]
nine_duck calls [$13.70 USD]
lildavefish calls [$13.70 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 9c, Jd ]
lildavefish checks
Omnicide1337 bets [$47.00 USD]
nine_duck folds
lildavefish .............?

Got a lot of history with this guy. have 2.5k hands with him and he has a 2% 3Bet, flop Cbet in 3bet pots of 88%.
Also about a week ago I was rele tilted and had a massive war with him in the chat box when he was being proper rude r.e my FTP ptr. after I berated him back he stood up and moved to my left, and for the next 20 mins limped every hand, called every raise from him and c/r every flop lol until i flopped a set and he gets it in for 250bbs and tilt leaves............so we dont rele get on.


Pot is $101.20, I have $47 to call off and he has $127 behind.


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: GreekStein on October 22, 2010, 02:08:54 PM
I think most interesting is pre.


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: BAM on October 22, 2010, 04:54:28 PM
I think most interesting is pre.

Was you thinking raise/fold pre?


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: GreekStein on October 22, 2010, 05:03:31 PM
I think most interesting is pre.

Was you thinking raise/fold pre?

Where do I locate the fold button? can never seem to find it


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: BAM on October 22, 2010, 05:45:46 PM
I think most interesting is pre.

Was you thinking raise/fold pre?

Where do I locate the fold button? can never seem to find it


Its right under your nose


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 22, 2010, 08:38:46 PM
I think most interesting is pre.

I would 3bet here most of the time pre flop, I cant remember exactly why I didn't but I defo had relly good reason.
I think the opener is pretty wild 4better so I nitted up aqnd decided to play a (shuddddderrrrrr) smaller/lower varience pot, rather than make a huge pot 250bbs deep OOP vs a wide 4betting range

Massive Nit-a-ments

you calling/folding/jamming flop COS? Also do you think he is EVER bet folding?

Im 55% vs AAxx with nut blues to save anyone the time ;)
and 25% vs naked QTxx


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: ACE2M on October 22, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
i jam everytime


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 22, 2010, 10:27:31 PM
i jam everytime

Do you think we have any fold equity, or is it just a striaght up value jam vs nut flush draws?


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: Ironside on October 23, 2010, 12:01:12 AM
i call and get in on turn


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 23, 2010, 01:23:59 AM
i call and get in on turn

specifically non dimond turns or just any turn?


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: Ironside on October 23, 2010, 04:45:16 AM
sorry last post was on phone missread the hand thought we flopped nut straight

not sure about hand now

we have 2 pair his range can have you dominated or dominating


his range can include nut straights and top sets with redraws to flush

or he could just have over pair with redraw to flush or straight

i am more inclined to get it in here or fold


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 23, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
which would yo do?


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: ACE2M on October 23, 2010, 09:32:03 PM
i jam everytime

Do you think we have any fold equity, or is it just a striaght up value jam vs nut flush draws?

small FE, betting at that flop is horrible imo (although 88% he could just be a robot in that situation) with out holding some sort of draw. i bet if we ran scenarios against most likely hands we'd be close to a flip so i take it on and sometimes he folds and we're extra happy and its overall profitable.


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 24, 2010, 01:11:20 AM
i jam everytime

Do you think we have any fold equity, or is it just a striaght up value jam vs nut flush draws?

small FE, betting at that flop is horrible imo (although 88% he could just be a robot in that situation) with out holding some sort of draw. i bet if we ran scenarios against most likely hands we'd be close to a flip so i take it on and sometimes he folds and we're extra happy and its overall profitable.

I did this.... we are 55%vs AA and fd/25% vs naked QT and 22% vs a set.
If he's bad enough we're also 72% vs naked AA.


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: Ironside on October 24, 2010, 04:01:08 AM
which would yo do?

i think cause of the history i might just jam but its not an auto jam


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: AlexMartin on October 24, 2010, 07:49:48 AM
i call and get in on turn

+1



Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 25, 2010, 02:14:47 AM
Basically I jammed and this happened.

he had QJT9.
Turn 8
BAM

I think I prefer a fold in hiensight, without being results orientated he wouldnt Cbet this flop with anything he cant call a shiovve with imo, so the bottom of his range is AA with diamonds when your 55% vs the bottom of someone's range with little FE I think we should fold. ty for feedback


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: pleno1 on October 25, 2010, 02:25:47 AM
Basically I jammed and this happened.

he had QJT9.
Turn 8
BAM

I think I prefer a fold in hiensight, without being results orientated he wouldnt Cbet this flop with anything he cant call a shiovve with imo, so the bottom of his range is AA with diamonds when your 55% vs the bottom of someone's range with little FE I think we should fold. ty for feedback

<3


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: ACE2M on October 25, 2010, 03:23:10 PM
Basically I jammed and this happened.

he had QJT9.
Turn 8
BAM

I think I prefer a fold in hiensight, without being results orientated he wouldnt Cbet this flop with anything he cant call a shiovve with imo, so the bottom of his range is AA with diamonds when your 55% vs the bottom of someone's range with little FE I think we should fold. ty for feedback

88% cbet when he's 3 bet pf is high isn't it? am i wrong, that was influencing my decision, prob a mistake.


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 26, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
Basically I jammed and this happened.

he had QJT9.
Turn 8
BAM

I think I prefer a fold in hiensight, without being results orientated he wouldnt Cbet this flop with anything he cant call a shiovve with imo, so the bottom of his range is AA with diamonds when your 55% vs the bottom of someone's range with little FE I think we should fold. ty for feedback

88% cbet when he's 3 bet pf is high isn't it? am i wrong, that was influencing my decision, prob a mistake.

No your absolutely right, and it influenced my decision as well. Thing that I kinda glossed over mid hand though, is that most 3bet pots he isn't sandwiched between too stack with 3x pot left (pretty much the ideal stack size to jam on in this spot) and the board isnt always 8 9 J with 2 of a suit...I think this is defo one of the 12%s where he checks without it because it's very hard for all 3 of us to brick that board!


Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: ACE2M on October 26, 2010, 12:48:18 PM
 i've come round to the fold as best option. i should have given more weight to the 'got to be mental to bet at this flop without some of it' thoughts i had.



Title: Re: PLOLOLOLOLOLO Hand
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 26, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
i've come round to the fold as best option. i should have given more weight to the 'got to be mental to bet at this flop without some of it' thoughts i had.



ahreed. wish id come round before I went all in....

O no I made a house, no I didnt.....

results ftw