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Want to know what you all do here and if you play this any differently up to this point?

Full Tilt Poker Game #25058921622: Table Algre (6 max, shallow) - $5/$10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 19:05:58 ET - 2010/10/27
Seat 1: dvz7 ($1,290.50)
Seat 2: TheBaron2010 ($247.50)
Seat 3: Vanjica ($353)
Seat 4: JChampion29 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: GreekStein ($431.50)
Seat 6: jema46 ($314)
dvz7 posts the small blind of $5
TheBaron2010 posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GreekStein [As 6d Ad Ks]
Vanjica folds
GreekStein raises to $35
jema46 calls $35
dvz7 folds
TheBaron2010 folds
*** FLOP *** [3s Qd Td]
GreekStein bets $85
jema46 calls $85
*** TURN *** [3s Qd Td] [9h]

everything fine thusfar (though I raise to $27.50-30 pre), fire another one in for me..but then I always go broke when he check raises me for the last few pennies and I miss.

255 in pot, 194 back

What's the question again?

you have 300 ish back, no?

edit, didn;t check Jema's stack...excellent point

is it fair to say

1) we never have the best hand now

2) he is never folding a better hand

?

Hi Hitsquad friend,

Well I'm questioning my sizing pre and post flop.

On the turn, can there ever be a case for folding?

I know on the face of it it seems like it might be silly (I DID put it in) but can we ever be ahead here?

1) yes

2) he's never folding better, no

you'll be getting 30% if you get it in and get called

You've got 25% equity if you put his range as 100% made straights

I don't think you can have him that narrow - eg you have 29% if you include Q9xx

I'd be potting it, any smaller sizing is pretty irelevant as can't really think you are bet folding for a min raise. I don't think check call is as viable an option, he checks back a fair bit and then its a tougher decision for you on the river

Fair maybe. Irrelevant definitely.

Stick to NL donko. Sure is irrelevant!

It is irrelevant tubulous turkus. Because of his stack size we should be getting it on here regardless innit.

What? btw they were by no menas rhetorical questions, I havnt played enough PLO to know the answers of both but my first thought to both answers meant that I thought it wasn't a shove.

Sigh.

Meant your stack not his.

Am I wrong?

Probably not until we've seen what oppo wants to do.

I love the way that greekys PLO posts have gone from 1/2 to 5/10 in 3 months

Sick brm dude! Running good?

LOL

He's greek, he's got a beak, he'll be broke within a week........

You know that I know that you know that I know that...........

I remeber thinking quite a lot about PF pot sizing when playing shallow games and you have a min stack, i think the answer i came to was POT. Just got to remeber why and i'll post it.

rotflmfao

God this made me smile so much!!!

I think we have little option but to get the moolies in here somehow.

I think that check-getting it in is slightly better cos, although you're perceived range has to be a little tighter as you're rarely going to completely brick a flop this wet and still Cbet, but checking will probably induce a bet from hands like 1p/diamond hands that have straight blockers, or even just junky blue draws and 1p's now that we've shown some weakness. OFC a made straight will bet but he's not folding when we jam anyways, whereas the hands we dominate probably will. He'll probably check back a lot of 2p hands which technically are ahead of us but we have GREAT equity vs, I dont think this is much of a problem, although its defo a +point for jamming that those hands will almost certainly fold.

I mean its most likely that he will call with either a striaght, or a hand that has blues/2p and probs on this board a gutshot or blocker as well, but bearing in mind that we cant really fold vs those hands anyway we may as well try to take a line that best exploits the bottom of his range.

Personally Id take a different line with shallow stacks.
OBV pre-flop is completely standard, anything but POT in these games just seems to crush value

Id check Jam the flop myself, as you have 12 NUT outs and a solid made hand already there's not too much worry about him checking back and taking a free card, and most of the hands that peel a bet on the flop will bet here and be forced to call off with often dominated hands. If he has a set then we'd have gotten it in on the flop anyway and have good equity regardless, and whenever he folds to the jam thats fine as well.

b/c for a lot of really good reasons.

results?

Also..

Alex martin becoming more and more active in plo hand advice + alex martin using blockers = bad news for plo.

he had KKJx. I lost

My mistake, I thought you'd been playing Dubai.

No. I will never sit vs my hero

I dont play PLO

LOL doubt I'd ever log out of Full Tilt if I saw Stuart Hopkin sat at $3/6 PLO.