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Ok, hand that caused a bit of a stir, I'd like your opinions on please. I have my views, but will try to remain neutral for discussion purposes.

Local £30 headhunter. General standard is, as you'd expect fairly tez. Blinds 300/600 (15 mins left at this level). Player A (cut-off +1) raises to 1600 (stack 12.5k), player B (cut-off) re-pops to 5k (stack 18.5k), folded back to Player A who shoves with 8c 8d and get called by  Ahrt Qd.

A little history between the players. previous level Player A raised (early pos), player B states that he folded  Ad Jc. Player B is also quite vociferous in his criticisms at the table and is seen as quite agressive. Player A is also known for overplaying marginal hands.

Sorry about the rambling, but feel the info is important.

One question, what do you think of thew pre flop shove by player A???

^Really?

Pretty standard spot. Eights could fold to 3-bet if the cut-off is tight I guess, but as you've said he's not, looks fine to me...

Cutoff+1 is the Hijack btw

cutoff -1 is the hijack

cutoff +1 is the button

so according to op the button is acting before the cutoff. I can only assume that this is what caused a stir as the rest looks standard

arrrrrrrrg i know its not your fault or anyone else's but live hand histories tilt the absolute life out of me.

+1

Standard of this hand actually seems strangely high for a random £30 headhunter

Player A's shove gets most hands he's racing with to fold.

Obv we don't like putting 2/3  of our stack in with AQ but when we're asking to put 5k into 18.4k against a player I have history with I'm never folding.

Personally I disagree that Player B is EVER folding pre-flop, he will be left to call 7.5k into about 7.5k after already raising ~30% of his stack

So as long as player B is 3bet calling wide enough then it's fine - as Mr. Atkin says id have no problem folding  8d 8c here vs a lot of live guys.

Ehhhh..I have literally no idea what I was talking about with the bolded parts..and i wasn't even drinking  ;whistle;

What I meant was that I don't like putting 2/3 of my stack in with  Ac Qd but as we are putting 7.5k into 18.4k I can't fold against any aggressive player's range.

Yeah maybe in a live tourney with no history I can fold the 8c 8d but against a player who we have antagonised I am probably never folding this shallow.

yh, pretty much this sums it up imo

ok basically the heated argument was with me.

Kev has AQ and villian had 8s. Kev came up saying villian had played hand awful. I said it was standard.

I assume the 88 held.

Exactly