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Title: Stupid spots
Post by: George2Loose on November 14, 2010, 07:31:46 PM
Full Tilt Poker Game #25550444879: $25K Super Stack (Early Antes) (197928718), Table 78 - 10/20 Ante 3 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:21:38 ET - 2010/11/14
Seat 1: SimonF (4,892)
Seat 2: papychulo777 (4,756)
Seat 3: SonnyRamone1979 (4,955)
Seat 4: George2Loose (5,006)
Seat 5: Lee Chang (4,956)
Seat 6: GreatDANbino (4,952)
Seat 8: merzavka (4,036)
Seat 9: Rhythmik (6,447)
SimonF antes 3
papychulo777 antes 3
SonnyRamone1979 antes 3
George2Loose antes 3
Lee Chang antes 3
GreatDANbino antes 3
merzavka antes 3
Rhythmik antes 3
merzavka posts the small blind of 10
Rhythmik posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [Ks Ad]
SimonF folds
papychulo777 calls 20
SonnyRamone1979 folds
George2Loose raises to 80
Lee Chang folds
GreatDANbino has 15 seconds left to act
GreatDANbino folds
merzavka folds
Rhythmik folds
papychulo777 has 15 seconds left to act
papychulo777 calls 60
*** FLOP *** [2d Ah Jc]
papychulo777 checks
George2Loose bets 125
papychulo777 calls 125
*** TURN *** [2d Ah Jc] [5c]
papychulo777 checks
George2Loose has 15 seconds left to act
George2Loose bets 295
papychulo777 has 15 seconds left to act
papychulo777 raises to 800
George2Loose has 15 seconds left to act
George2Loose

Questions:

I wanna try and get three streets of value here- is this bad?

Should I always pot control turn?

If you fold this street what range of hands does villian have?

If you call here, are you calling or folding most rivers?


Title: Re: Stupid spots
Post by: redarmi on November 14, 2010, 09:18:25 PM
I fold here on the turn with no other reads on the player which I assume you don't have.  It isn't a dry enough board for him to be realistically trying to bluff you here and if he has something like AQ or A10 he isn't realistically doing anything other than check calling down the streets.  I just don't see what you beat here.  AJ, JJ, 22 all look fairly likely to me.


Title: Re: Stupid spots
Post by: Whollyflush on November 14, 2010, 09:19:43 PM
folding turn seems reasonable, very few floats he can have and doubt hes going nuts with KcJx type hands. I'd rather pot control with weaker aces with a club in hand and b/f this type hand. Not a huge fan of calling turn folding river in general. Disclaimer: dnt really play donkaments.


Title: Re: Stupid spots
Post by: T_Mar on November 14, 2010, 09:46:57 PM
Agree with title of the thread! I hate folding spotd like this, looks alot like A5 or 22 I guess... he prob doesn't raise other Ax hands, and is not a great spot for him to be bluffing.. saying that he limp/called pre so more difficult to give him credit... in realtime I I think I try to get to showdown cheaply but  that is prob a leak



Title: Re: Stupid spots
Post by: Rupert on November 14, 2010, 10:39:27 PM
u played it fine fold now

I wanna try and get three streets of value here- is this bad? no

Should I always pot control turn? no

If you fold this street what range of hands does villian have? sets aj other stuff

If you call here, are you calling or folding most rivers? folding


Title: Re: Stupid spots
Post by: SuuPRlim on November 17, 2010, 07:11:37 PM
folding turn seems reasonable, very few floats he can have and doubt hes going nuts with KcJx type hands. I'd rather pot control with weaker aces with a club in hand and b/f this type hand. Not a huge fan of calling turn folding river in general. Disclaimer: dnt really play donkaments.

 I was genuinleyy going to write that. instead looking clever I just look like a fanboy, sigh