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Title: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 14, 2010, 07:41:16 PM
Hi guys here goes I'm chit at all this

I got my laptop
I just bought a external floppy drive
I've got a yamaha clavinova cvp55
with built in midi diskdrive

what I'm trying to do is download music files
onto my pc then onto my external floppy
that's all good

but when I put the disk in the piano
I get 0
I been all day online searching and I'm stuck

any ideas guys please thanks


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2010, 07:45:40 PM
Have you tried turning it off and on?


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 14, 2010, 08:22:54 PM
Have you tried turning it off and on?
Yeah Good that one


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: RED-DOG on November 14, 2010, 08:31:18 PM
 ;nanana;


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: Tractor on November 15, 2010, 07:23:01 AM
When you say music files, what is the exact file?
Have you tried a midi file?


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: Graham C on November 15, 2010, 08:23:49 AM
I'm not sure on how to solve your problem, but if there's no help here, it maybe worth posting on a piano forum like http://www.uk-piano.org/piano-forums/index.php 

You don't have to format Midi discs before you use them do you? 


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: rex008 on November 15, 2010, 09:14:36 AM
From a quick Google, that model might originally only have a 720k floppy drive. Problem is Windows cannot format to 720Kb since Windows XP, although it can read them. Can the piano format the disc? Would be best to let it do the formatting if it can.


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: keilan303 on November 15, 2010, 12:05:36 PM
Christ...I remember floppy disks...I will bet good money that it probably uses some ancient double density drive and your external drive will be a high density drive...so the disks will be incompatible...did the keyboard come with any disks? Can you open these in Windows?

I would suggest getting a USB midi interface and connecting that to the keyboard, you could probably record it that way instead??


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 15, 2010, 03:28:22 PM
Christ...I remember floppy disks...I will bet good money that it probably uses some ancient double density drive and your external drive will be a high density drive...so the disks will be incompatible...did the keyboard come with any disks? Can you open these in Windows?

I would suggest getting a USB midi interface and connecting that to the keyboard, you could probably record it that way instead??
this sounds ok
it says in book recomend to use yamaha dd disk
after u say this now double density

I bought high density disks maybe this is why??

Are dd disks available?
Would they work on my new external drive?


I'm off to maplin to buy a USB to midi cable
to try this

thanks forcadvice
but I'm sure it might gave something to do
with dd and HD disks
thanks


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: rex008 on November 15, 2010, 04:05:42 PM
DD is 720kb. HD is 1.44Mb. You can format a HD disk to the DD 720kb format no problem, but you'd need to get the piano itself to do it.

The question of whether the piano came with any discs is a good one - see if windows can actually read them.

USB->MIDI is a good way to go, but you'll need something that can actually translate the MIDI on the PC end. Probably some free/shareware out there for basic music editing I'd imagine. Or something like Cubase, but that's expensive.


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 15, 2010, 04:19:48 PM
DD is 720kb. HD is 1.44Mb. You can format a HD disk to the DD 720kb format no problem, but you'd need to get the piano itself to do it.

The question of whether the piano came with any discs is a good one - see if windows can actually read them.

USB->MIDI is a good way to go, but you'll need something that can actually translate the MIDI on the PC end. Probably some free/shareware out there for basic music editing I'd imagine. Or something like Cubase, but that's expensive.

thanks rex im gonna try and format a new hd disk in the piano,then put it in my external hard drive on pc to try and download then try back on piano


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 15, 2010, 04:29:55 PM
Midi files?? Did they not go out with Betamax??? I had a midi HIFI when I was 12. It was ber-ber-booomin...

yeah they did but i got a real nice keyboard yamaha clavinova cvp55
heres a pic just found online

real nice piano sound


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 15, 2010, 04:34:12 PM
DD is 720kb. HD is 1.44Mb. You can format a HD disk to the DD 720kb format no problem, but you'd need to get the piano itself to do it.

The question of whether the piano came with any discs is a good one - see if windows can actually read them.

USB->MIDI is a good way to go, but you'll need something that can actually translate the MIDI on the PC end. Probably some free/shareware out there for basic music editing I'd imagine. Or something like Cubase, but that's expensive.

thanks for tips im chit at this stuff.,.,.,

could you recomend what i need to download?
just off out to buy midi-usb lead
thanks


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: rex008 on November 15, 2010, 05:13:33 PM
DD is 720kb. HD is 1.44Mb. You can format a HD disk to the DD 720kb format no problem, but you'd need to get the piano itself to do it.

The question of whether the piano came with any discs is a good one - see if windows can actually read them.

USB->MIDI is a good way to go, but you'll need something that can actually translate the MIDI on the PC end. Probably some free/shareware out there for basic music editing I'd imagine. Or something like Cubase, but that's expensive.

thanks for tips im chit at this stuff.,.,.,

could you recomend what i need to download?
just off out to buy midi-usb lead
thanks

You've reached the limits of my knowledge I'm afraid - I've never actually done it myself, I've just read about it. Plenty of PC musicians about I'm sure, you might need to visit other forums though.

Nice piano though. I'm jealous. I started learning about a year ago when we started lessons for the kids. Bought a cheap n cheerful Tecnics digital piano off ebay. Full size weighted 88 keys, ok enough, but not a Clavinova :).

Edit: Quick search on AVForums, there's a thread discussing software:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/musicians-corner/1085419-what-software-do-you-use.html

I'm sure there are dedicated musician forums around as well. Google "MIDI Software" of variations of that.


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: Tractor on November 15, 2010, 06:19:19 PM
Maybe try a free trial of Acid:http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/musicstudio
More a loop, sequencer but does have midi facility.
One tip the Keyboard and sequencer has to be on the same channel to talk, think its 1 to 16 iirc.


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: sofa----king on November 15, 2010, 08:24:02 PM
Thnks guys
just went to get lead at maplins sold out lmao

I will order one online tonight

thanks for tips n advice


Title: Re: Anyone know about midi files please
Post by: keilan303 on November 15, 2010, 09:18:53 PM
In case it didn't come with the piano... http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/cla/CVP65E.PDF should be a good place to start! :)

Sounds like you can format the disks from the piano itself. I can't remember if you can format HD discs as DD in a DD only drive....if you want DD discs you should try asking a mate who used to have an Amiga 500 or something if they have some old discs you can reformat, this is where I can remember having problems with the two formats, failing that, ebay.

As for the PC to MIDI, good shout, you would need a sequencer. Cubase is the nuts when it comes to that as far as Im aware....I only do the opposite (using a keyboard to send notes into the PC then using VST plugins in Cubase for the playback. Looks a nice beast the yamaha though.... ;kev;