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Title: Default line here?
Post by: George2Loose on November 21, 2010, 11:50:52 PM
OK nothing crazy going on. FTOPS main. Initial opener min raised a few pots but nothing crazy. What is default line here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #25754626172: FTOPS Main Event (186723691), Table 413 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:45:03 ET - 2010/11/21
Seat 1: dilling89 (4,300)
Seat 2: galacticos23 (9,310)
Seat 3: Calvin Klein J (5,775)
Seat 4: yohjiyamamoto (6,297)
Seat 5: digdug718 (9,210)
Seat 6: kapsask3 (6,986)
Seat 7: Beatmike (7,460)
Seat 8: George2Loose (8,290)
Seat 9: Mikey Cashman (9,472)
George2Loose posts the small blind of 25
Mikey Cashman posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [Ah Ks]
dilling89 folds
galacticos23 raises to 100
Calvin Klein J has 15 seconds left to act
Calvin Klein J folds
yohjiyamamoto folds
digdug718 folds
kapsask3 raises to 325
Beatmike folds
George2Loose


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: titaniumbean on November 21, 2010, 11:55:52 PM
fold pre?

what are your reads?! are they grinders or sat entries?!?!


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Ironside on November 21, 2010, 11:56:35 PM
i raise to 900 and fold to a shove proberly


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: George2Loose on November 21, 2010, 11:58:11 PM
fold pre?

what are your reads?! are they grinders or sat entries?!?!

dunno- I didn't ask! :D


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Whollyflush on November 21, 2010, 11:59:48 PM
Your in the blinds right? if so i'd just muck pre. If your IP i think peeling and 4betting are both reasonable.


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Rupert on November 22, 2010, 12:01:59 AM
id call.  4b/fold, or folding also options


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: George2Loose on November 22, 2010, 12:04:49 AM
Your in the blinds right? if so i'd just muck pre. If your IP i think peeling and 4betting are both reasonable.

yep small blind


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: titaniumbean on November 22, 2010, 12:07:00 AM
I don't see the point in a 4 bet fold unless they are pants and gonna flat and not make life tough.

Flatting from the sb is gonna make life hard. I prob just fold pre if I haven't re-raised like a machine without looking at any number/info/tournyBI.....


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Rupert on November 22, 2010, 12:13:40 AM
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I don't see the point in a 4 bet fold unless they are pants and gonna flat and not make life tough.

try and get QQ to fold, win when he has air, save awkward postflop decisions in 3b pot OOP, more +EV than folding


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: titaniumbean on November 22, 2010, 12:47:06 AM
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I don't see the point in a 4 bet fold unless they are pants and gonna flat and not make life tough.

try and get QQ to fold, win when he has air, save awkward postflop decisions in 3b pot OOP, more +EV than folding


ya but I'd prob rather just not try and make QQ fold and do an open fold myself.


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: railtard1 on November 22, 2010, 08:20:16 PM
been experimenting with 4bet/folding in these spots. Its kinda gay sometimes but in general works well. Dont see how it can be exploited. (unless u have a maniac who is willing to 5bet jam 125bb effect with airballs in the 3rd level of a $640)
 were gona fold out aq/ak/tt/jj and put QQ in a real tough position.


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Rupert on November 23, 2010, 01:18:15 AM
similar: http://www.pokerhand.org/?5814588

any ideas?


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: George2Loose on November 23, 2010, 02:33:37 AM
this one puzzles me!

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5768026


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: skolsuper on November 23, 2010, 02:39:33 AM
this one puzzles me!

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5768026

WTF George? Although cool to see FScottFitzgerald still going, he has been a grinder on ipoker 1/2 and 2/4 pretty much since time began. Good player iirc, definitely call that river.


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: George2Loose on November 23, 2010, 02:44:52 AM
this one puzzles me!

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5768026

WTF George? Although cool to see FScottFitzgerald still going, he has been a grinder on ipoker 1/2 and 2/4 pretty much since time began. Good player iirc, definitely call that river.

[ ] it was me

[ ] I fold bottom pair

[X] It was Rupert

[X] He folds kings full


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: skolsuper on November 23, 2010, 02:53:17 AM
this one puzzles me!

http://www.pokerhand.org/?5768026

WTF George? Although cool to see FScottFitzgerald still going, he has been a grinder on ipoker 1/2 and 2/4 pretty much since time began. Good player iirc, definitely call that river.

[ ] it was me

[ ] I fold bottom pair

[X] It was Rupert

[X] He folds kings full

Ahhh, sorry George. [ ] WP Rupert


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Rupert on November 23, 2010, 02:56:26 AM
[ ] you guys have played extensively with FScottFitzgerald :P


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: George2Loose on November 23, 2010, 03:00:11 AM
Which set of quads did u put him on?


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: Rupert on November 23, 2010, 03:12:00 AM
joke all you want, I saved $248 most players wouldn't have that hand :P


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: SuuPRlim on November 23, 2010, 03:30:09 AM
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Walmart-PreBlack-Friday-Saturday-Sale-Features-248-HDTV-1037994.html

Last Laugh Rupert imo.


Title: Re: Default line here?
Post by: maryhadalamb on November 24, 2010, 12:02:03 AM
joke all you want, I saved $248 most players wouldn't have that hand :P

Meh, idk about saved, is more like missing nice opportunity to set $248 on fire!