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I know there are some really great players here.

 Just wanted to know if you had any advice for when you make the last table.

 Do you tighten up, loosen up ?

 I have been very careful to pick my spots, but getting very unlucky, I'm not going to go into the bad beat i just took.

Just wondered if there is a tatic for the last table

CHEERS

If the table is tight play fast and loose, if its a loose table tighten up.

As for bad beats etc, no such thing on a final table, its all about chips and position, cards really dont mean much as it usually comes down to which side the coin lands.

Yeah it just seems to me that every hand you play puts your stack on the line when the blinds are 3000/6000
and your sitting with 30k.

As for there not being bad beats lol . 2 off the blinds i push all in with A T suited called by the BB with T 3 and spikes the 3 on the turn to send me to the rail. Maybe not a bad beat but Sick anyway you look at it

My point is on a final table you are going to get odd card pairsing for showdowns, like T3 all in pre flop.

My suggestion is that you get more chips so you can sustain these hands. Having 5bb's is not the situation you want to be in, if you had 90k there u would have been fine.

Thanks

MUST REMEMBER GET MORE CHIPS.

No seriously cheers i see your point.

What do you think a good % of wins to final tables is?

 I have made 26 ft's this year and won 4, 7 2nd's, 3 3rd's.

well i am 0 wins for 6 fts in the last 3 days. but looking at your record there thats 50% in the last 3 places. I would be happy making final 3 50% of my final table showings

I've only really played mtts for about 4 months of the year so it's not to bad a record. But i am sick of coming 2nd and 3rd as the wins were all early in the year, have been putting in some intensive heads up practice and now i can't make a final table for the life of me!!!

I think it's like anything, If you go off and play cash tables you lose something in your tourney game,or the other way round, Like golf it's hard to get the whole game together at once. I feel like my poker game has come on leaps and bounds, and im scared of no one. But when i get to the final table i can't Putt

I have played 147 finals this year (about to be 148 if i dont mess this paradise game up!! lol)

I have had 38 1st's 25 2nd's 17 3rd's

Pure unadulterated aggression i find is the key. The people who were playing tight as f to get to the final table will usually stick with that strategy trying to make the last 5. In my last ft appearence i stole the blinds from the same 2 players 11 hands in a row and with the blinds being what they are it was enough to see me to the last 3 players. And gamble with the shortstacks who go all in in late position on my blinds with almost any semblence of a hand.

wow now that is excellent flushy. will have to come see you play a final table, with yahoo messenger so you can tell me what your up to..

Very well done..

Just under 50% so my record is not to shabby compared to one of the greats. Gl in the tourney.

From how many tourneys? if you don't mind me asking flushy?

That is well over 50%

Brain Dead here.

It's not well over, Just over

you are correct. 80 times in the top 3, not sure where i got 70 in my head from.

lol A2M and Bundle.

It's all about the setup, when i final i usually do so with a good stack, i dont try to squeeze into the money. You can't be afraid to go out when you are on the final. The comp i am in now pays 7th 300 and 4th 600, if you go 3 more spots it pays 2000. It's clear to see that laddering from 4th to 7th is pretty pointless. If you do manage to ladder up 4 times thats a 1200 increase on the 300, if you win it once thats a 1700 increase! And thats just once!

Basiclly GO FOR IT! and start doing it BEFORE the final.

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See this is why i come to this site. great advice. I'm watching you now flushy

whats your paradise alias flushy?

Well i hope its MKKMOO b/c thats who im watching

LOL, its a 20/1 shot bundle

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When you say 'go for it' are you talking about theiving blinds and pots from tighter players or gambling your stack in marginal situations?

yeah MKKMOO. Just made a crazy play on the bubble vs the only player who had me covered, i can report, ayyyaarrr.

On 35k with 2nd on 20k, bubble time still.

When you say 'go for it' are you talking about theiving blinds and pots from tighter players or gambling your stack in marginal situations?




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I try to still avoid gambles if i can, but i wont hide from one.

I mean try to play pots with position, if a couple of players limp put in a small raise, the kind they HAVE to call (it reaks of AA) then put in a nice bet on the flop and away u go. Or limpo behind and hope they check to you, obviously these work once you have chips. In the first place i would say go for the standard blind steals, and when someone comes for yours, then take the steal away.

Example earlier in this para comp a player came in with a weak raise i was in the SB and moved in to nick it, they HAVE to have a hand to call....as it happens they had AA, lol.

ouch, just lost a 55k pot, quite big when av is 17k, but still got 17k back!

had AK vs QQ

Ah well went a bit card dead and any move got trampled on.

The last hand was a tad unfortunate, the cl matched up from the sb and i checked with 63 in the bb, the flop came A98. The way he played i knew he would have pushed an Ace pre flop so when he checked i moved in, sadly he had 89!! Them the breaks!

If my coinflip gamble had worked i would have done better, but i still had a shot, i just couldnt do anything with it!

I like your style..GG

lol ty, and ty to you and nem for the mooooo's

Flushy is a very good example if you wanna see hyper aggressive final table play, i think the crux of it is you cannot be worried about going out early.
Because of how Flushy plays he has some wicked suck outs, but can also absorb the odd bad beat too.
Oh, and if you ever play against him never, NEVER limp on his blind

Some of them it appears are learning!!  8)

You cant always be aggresive of course, sometimes your hands are tied by the size of your stack, a large stack though gives YOU the option to play any style u want.

Someone said you should get your stack built up before the final table . He is so so right.                            Between 16 and 12 players is when you should be doing your work, then you can do what you want with the truck load of chips in front of you.

on a final table the other day  a bit short stacked  i put in a raise of 3bbs from the button  sb and bb both call

i was holding  4s 8s

flop comes down    4c Js Qs

beautiful flop i think  bottom pair with the flush draw

checked round to me so i bet 70% of me remaining stack   sb calls   bb moves allin

i call  sb   calls

turns out they are both slowing playing me      sbb shows    Aspades Ahrts

bb shows     Ad Ac

turn comes  2h

river   8d

i hit 2 pair and triple up  what a result from trying to steal the blinds