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Title: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:10:13 AM

DTD's sponsorship of Blondepoker Forum will cease on December 31st. It's not a termination as such, the deal was on a month-by-month basis, & we part on excellent terms.

We were informed of this about 8 to 10 weeks ago, but our total support for them has continued 100%, & we shall continue that line until Dec 31st.

Beyond that, in deference to incomng sponsor(s), we shall continue to large up what many (me included) think is Europe's, maybe the world's, best Cardroom. However, their stuff will have to go on the correct Boards - Live Poker, Internet Poker, etc, & will not be "stickied". So, DTD news WILL still be very much available on blonde for those that want it, & I'll certainly big them up in every way I can.

Why the parting of the ways? Two main reasons, I think.

1) It was not delivering financially. Hard as we & they tried, we could not get blondes to support DTD Online, & ultimately, DTD is not a Charity. blondes, of course, have no obligation to support our Sponsors, but without sponsors, we have no means to fund stuff. And if we cannot convert blondes to play a little on DTD (that was all that was needed) DTD have less inclination to bung money across to blonde every month.

2) DTD are moving their comms in a new direction, which, essentially, makes blondepoker redundant to their needs.

A few cases of inappropriately phrased feedback did not help, either - it serves no good purpose to be rude to sponsors - but I think 90% of it was 1) & 2) as above. 

I don't think that there are any "if we coulda woulda" caveats about the deal. DTD tried their best to make it work, Tighty delivered way over the odds, far beyond the terms of the Contract, & I supported it financially to the tune of several thousands pounds of my own cash.

But it never delivered revenues, so that's that.

I'd like to make special mention of Tighty, who did more than everyone else combined to try & make it work, & who was bitterly disappointed that it did not. He delivered way above what was required, including giving DTD News Feeds etc which were not part of the deal. He's some special bloke. In effect, we use sponsors income to pay Tighty, & without a sponsor, we have a problem. I hold the view that Tighty's value to DTD in PR terms was immense, but the problem is nobody can quantify it. In any event, their plans going forward obviate the need for Tighty's PR puff.

I'd also like to thank Rob, Nick & Simon for their support of blonde right from the moment the idea of DTD was born. We fitted like a glove, imo.

DTD have moved the goalposts as to what a good Cardroom should do, & it remains the best venue to play. I have no doubt that poker players will continue to view the  DTD Club for what it is - the best, with or without blonde. Job done, really.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: George2Loose on December 12, 2010, 12:11:58 AM
Is blonde under threat as a result of this?


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:13:19 AM

blonde will be updating next week's Monte Carlo at DTD as per normal, & although it's not been confirmed 100%, the indications are that it wll be blonde's last DTD Update, as they are working on alternative plans.

The DTD-blonde Updates, mainly of the wonderful monthly £300, are the highlights of blonde in many ways, so that's a major blow, but, again, it was not yielding any financial return to DTD whatsoever, Rob may as well have set light to £50 notes. We all enjoyed them, but eveything costs money.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:14:06 AM

As soon as DTD informed us, we set out to find new Sponsors.

Three parties were keen to work with us, & all three were very acceptable, & fit for purpose.

All wanted exclusivity, of course.

Eventually, one was selected, & their Tenancy will commence on January 1st.

We will not reveal their name until then, as that would not be fair on DTD, who have paid up until Dec 31st.

On January 1st, we start over.

Very intensive & detailed planning is already in train to start with a bang, & sleeves are rolled up to try & make it work. I'm very optimistic that this time, we can get the blondes to support the Sponsors, which, in turn, pays blondes bills.

We shall see.

Onwards & upwards, as ever.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:22:23 AM
Is blonde under threat as a result of this?

Not as such, no.

I don't want to overly embarrass anyone, but it's quite straightforward really.

As of now, blonde is more a Community than a commercial entity.

Fixed Costs, in the main, are Tighty's wages, & the Hosting costs.

The income from DTD covers, in effect pays, Tighty. Without income at that level, we have no means to pay him. I assume you can work the consequences of that one out.....

The Hosting costs, about £230 per month I think, are paid personally by me. In truth, so long as the place remains a happy place, where we can chit & chat & stuff, I'm happy to continue to fund that, if not indefinitely (my retirement, & with it, loss of income, has to come eventually), at least for the foreseeable future.

So no, blonde is not under threat as such. But without funds to pay Tighty, we'd have no Tighty, & that would, I think, be the last straw. He's an immense force of industry & good, & it's inconceivable that we could continue without him.

The income from the new sponsor will cover Tighty's wages, but the tenancy is only for an initial 3 months, then to be reviewed based upon financial returns & performance. Another message that should need no decoding......


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: mondatoo on December 12, 2010, 12:35:55 AM
Now I'm very drunk so I'll state that first and I also think Flushy is one of the nicest people from Blonde that I've met and I generally couldn't really give a shit how much money ppl have,trust me, BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ? Now I know I'm a clown but was he not allowed to ? If he was then why are people wasting time wearing them in a DTD 300 when the owner of Blonde didn't bother to on worldwide scene and if he wasn't allowed then WTF ?

I like DTD but I love Blonde and I know you aren't going against each other but Blonde will be fine.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: mondatoo on December 12, 2010, 12:40:05 AM
PS I'm a drunk clown


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: MC on December 12, 2010, 12:40:33 AM
BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ?

I have to say I wondered this myself. I guess if it was something to do with Full Tilt it makes sense. Colclough wore a Blonde patch or hat or something at a televised final table back in the day so I doubt it was that he wasn't allowed...


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: Longy on December 12, 2010, 12:41:21 AM
PS I'm a drunk clown

QFT.

I knew when I didn't see you at the tables tonight, that you would be hammered.



Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:42:20 AM
Now I'm very drunk so I'll state that first and I also think Flushy is one of the nicest people from Blonde that I've met and I generally couldn't really give a shit how much money ppl have,trust me, BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ? Now I know I'm a clown but was he not allowed to ? If he was then why are people wasting time wearing them in a DTD 300 when the owner of Blonde didn't bother to on worldwide scene and if he wasn't allowed then WTF ?

I like DTD but I love Blonde and I know you aren't going against each other but Blonde will be fine.

Yes, blonde will be fine.

Flushy may seem to move in mysterious ways, but without him, Tighty would not still be here, as Flushy paid the overdue balance of his wages (a 5 figure sum) via an interest-free loan to the Company. He's almost a sleeping partner in many ways, but there's value in that, as he leaves Tighty to get on with things & does not interfere.

Flushy's current position with FT, too, makes things a little complicated, as do mine with next door. Nothing is quite a simple as it may seem at first sight.

If we had a money crisis tomorrow, which I was unable or unwilling to meet, I'm quite sure Flushy would do the necessary, so I'll happily settle for that.

PS - Keep that Diary going. More & more, these player Diary/blogs - bliarys? - are the way forward, & yours is excellent.

PPS - Drink less.;)


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: mondatoo on December 12, 2010, 12:46:08 AM
Now I'm very drunk so I'll state that first and I also think Flushy is one of the nicest people from Blonde that I've met and I generally couldn't really give a shit how much money ppl have,trust me, BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ? Now I know I'm a clown but was he not allowed to ? If he was then why are people wasting time wearing them in a DTD 300 when the owner of Blonde didn't bother to on worldwide scene and if he wasn't allowed then WTF ?

I like DTD but I love Blonde and I know you aren't going against each other but Blonde will be fine.

Yes, blonde will be fine.

Flushy may seem to move in mysterious ways, but without him, Tighty would not still be here, as Flushy paid the overdue balance via an interest-free loan to the Company. He's almost a sleeping patner in many ways, but there's value in that, as he leaves Tighty to get on with things & does not interfere.

Flushy's current position with FT, too, makes things a little complicated, as do mine with next door. Nothing is quite a simple as it may seem at first sight.

If we had a money crisiis tomorrow, which I was unable or unwilling to meet, I'm quite sure Flushy would do the necessary, so I'll happily settle for that.

My post was in no way ment as a pop at Flushy it's just something I've always wondered and now I'm pissed enough to ask,hoping none offence was taken as none was ment


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:49:48 AM
BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ?

I have to say I wondered this myself. I guess if it was something to do with Full Tilt it makes sense. Colclough wore a Blonde patch or hat or something at a televised final table back in the day so I doubt it was that he wasn't allowed...

Knowing Flushy, it never crossed his mind, he simply never thought about it in the excitement of the moment. I don't think anything sinister should be read into it. And, as it happens, I'm not sure that wearing the badge on TV makes much difference to anything, apart from "ooh, look, a blonde badge". I may be wrong there though. Viewing figures for Televised Poker barely register on the scale, by the bye. We live in this little world of poker not realising that there is a real world outside, & poker is not of much import to 99% of the population. Strictly X Factor & Corrie Live are the things that matter, God help us.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 12, 2010, 12:53:31 AM
Now I'm very drunk so I'll state that first and I also think Flushy is one of the nicest people from Blonde that I've met and I generally couldn't really give a shit how much money ppl have,trust me, BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ? Now I know I'm a clown but was he not allowed to ? If he was then why are people wasting time wearing them in a DTD 300 when the owner of Blonde didn't bother to on worldwide scene and if he wasn't allowed then WTF ?

I like DTD but I love Blonde and I know you aren't going against each other but Blonde will be fine.

Yes, blonde will be fine.

Flushy may seem to move in mysterious ways, but without him, Tighty would not still be here, as Flushy paid the overdue balance via an interest-free loan to the Company. He's almost a sleeping patner in many ways, but there's value in that, as he leaves Tighty to get on with things & does not interfere.

Flushy's current position with FT, too, makes things a little complicated, as do mine with next door. Nothing is quite a simple as it may seem at first sight.

If we had a money crisiis tomorrow, which I was unable or unwilling to meet, I'm quite sure Flushy would do the necessary, so I'll happily settle for that.

My post was in no way ment as a pop at Flushy it's just something I've always wondered and now I'm pissed enough to ask,hoping none offence was taken as none was ment

Understood. I bet 100 people have asked me the same question, tbh, & I don't really know the answer, other then I stated above, & I've never thought it important enough to ask him. I sat next to him - briefly..... in a Tourney this evening, & had a perfectly spiffing time. I won't hear a word said against the plump slow-rolling degen.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: mondatoo on December 12, 2010, 01:04:12 AM
And I won't be the one saying it against him :)


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: GreekStein on December 12, 2010, 01:05:08 AM
It could be that no-one had a blonde badge on them in Vegas? Dunno just a possibility.

1) It was not delivering financially. Hard as we & they tried, we could not get blondes to support DTD Online.

I've said it a few times before, but I really don't think it sunk in to the guys at DTD that their site is just really horrible for grinding on. It's ok for the recreational players who play one table here and there or a couple of MTTs and I've played the odd satellite on there but these are not the people that are really going to make any money for DTD.

I would have played on pretty much any skin blonde had as I was doing when blonde was with ipoker, but I just could not do it on that software and I'm sure it was the same for many others.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: mondatoo on December 12, 2010, 01:07:28 AM
I would love to 24 table on DTD's software but for many reasons that's not possible.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 12, 2010, 01:10:44 AM
It could be that no-one had a blonde badge on them in Vegas? Dunno just a possibility.

1) It was not delivering financially. Hard as we & they tried, we could not get blondes to support DTD Online.

I've said it a few times before, but I really don't think it sunk in to the guys at DTD that their site is just really horrible for grinding on. It's ok for the recreational players who play one table here and there or a couple of MTTs and I've played the odd satellite on there but these are not the people that are really going to make any money for DTD.

I would have played on pretty much any skin blonde had as I was doing when blonde was with ipoker, but I just could not do it on that software and I'm sure it was the same for many others.

Got to agree with Cos Here, I supported DTD on Crypto as much as I could, & on Boss initally, now I only play the DTD sats, I just wish Rob brings Crypto back,


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: sovietsong on December 12, 2010, 01:13:03 AM
It could be that no-one had a blonde badge on them in Vegas? Dunno just a possibility.

1) It was not delivering financially. Hard as we & they tried, we could not get blondes to support DTD Online.

I've said it a few times before, but I really don't think it sunk in to the guys at DTD that their site is just really horrible for grinding on. It's ok for the recreational players who play one table here and there or a couple of MTTs and I've played the odd satellite on there but these are not the people that are really going to make any money for DTD.

I would have played on pretty much any skin blonde had as I was doing when blonde was with ipoker, but I just could not do it on that software and I'm sure it was the same for many others.

Got to agree with Cos Here, I supported DTD on Crypto as much as I could, & on Boss initally, now I only play the DTD sats, I just wish Rob brings Crypto back,

+1

bring back tribecca


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: MC on December 12, 2010, 01:21:36 AM
bring back tribecca

+10000000


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: pleno1 on December 12, 2010, 03:29:07 AM
5 figures! wp Flushy.

Obv no Blonde patches in Vegas, they only came out month ago iirc and Flushy can't just get one insta made when he makes a final.

Do you have figures on how many people view the front page of blonde? I know I just use the /forum link.

I suspect Stars will be the new site in January as they just want to take over the world. That would be fun, free seats to UKIPT's etc.

I enjoyed working for Blonde at DTD a couple of months ago and by large was treated OK by DTD. It is very unfortunate that this is getting removed next month as almost every new player joins the forum to view "their" updates. I know there is like 20+ people from Newcastle on Blonde every month and perhaps 5 new members that wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the updates. Shame.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: GreekStein on December 12, 2010, 03:42:33 AM
Obv no Blonde patches in Vegas, they only came out month ago iirc and Flushy can't just get one insta made when he makes a final.

lol newbiements


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: cambridgealex on December 12, 2010, 04:52:51 AM
It could be that no-one had a blonde badge on them in Vegas? Dunno just a possibility.

1) It was not delivering financially. Hard as we & they tried, we could not get blondes to support DTD Online.

I've said it a few times before, but I really don't think it sunk in to the guys at DTD that their site is just really horrible for grinding on. It's ok for the recreational players who play one table here and there or a couple of MTTs and I've played the odd satellite on there but these are not the people that are really going to make any money for DTD.

I would have played on pretty much any skin blonde had as I was doing when blonde was with ipoker, but I just could not do it on that software and I'm sure it was the same for many others.

this


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: leethefish on December 12, 2010, 09:11:50 AM
i am fairly new to blonde in comparison to most and only really just started getting more involved instead of just reading,
mainly down to to partnership with dtd and blonde i play as often as i can on dtd poker for satellites and other small stakes

i agree with most i used to play William hill on crypto leej008 and 4kinghell on dtd played alot with dewi (if he can remember that far back).

most of my mates now read blonde due to the updates for dtd i think it may have worked in reverse to what dtd where hoping for
two reasons i don't grind on dtd is one the software and two fpp cant do nothing with them apart from odd satellite!!
when club and site first opened you could use points to spend in the club now that is an incentive to play on there site!

all in all though its a shame cos for me the two together fits like a glove


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: bigalhx1 on December 12, 2010, 09:33:17 AM

i agree with most i used to play William hill on crypto leej008 and 4kinghell on dtd played alot with dewi (if he can remember that far back).

 i would be surprised if Dewi can remember last night


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on December 12, 2010, 10:39:09 AM
Now I'm very drunk so I'll state that first and I also think Flushy is one of the nicest people from Blonde that I've met and I generally couldn't really give a shit how much money ppl have,trust me, BUT how come Flushy didn't wear a Blonde badge when he played  the WSOP ft's ? Now I know I'm a clown but was he not allowed to ? If he was then why are people wasting time wearing them in a DTD 300 when the owner of Blonde didn't bother to on worldwide scene and if he wasn't allowed then WTF ?

I like DTD but I love Blonde and I know you aren't going against each other but Blonde will be fine.


i kew i had seen it somewhere  but Flushy DID have the Blonde badge on show at the wsop he had it resting on his chips i have seen a few pis of this and just taken me an hour to find one

wp flusy



Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: pokerfan on December 12, 2010, 11:13:27 AM
^^Obv didn`t want to ruin that incred shirt.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: Skippy on December 12, 2010, 12:06:30 PM
I never understand why DTD the cardroom (which is top class) wants to be associated with DTD the online poker site (which isn't). I couldn't have any less of an idea how much money you get from a poker skin, but I'd be surprised if any revenues it does generate would make up for the effect of putting off other online sites from hosting their events at DTD- I'm surprised that PokerStars like their UKIPT being held there for example.

Imagine DTD satellites being played on a major site (or even a range of eurosites). How many more runners would every event get at DTD?


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: mondatoo on December 12, 2010, 01:53:59 PM
 ;hide;


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: TRIP5 on December 17, 2010, 05:31:56 PM
Went to DTD for the first time in September for the SPT final ...can i use the same registration to play online or do I need to send shnizzle over?

xx


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: Eso Kral on December 18, 2010, 11:36:20 AM

As soon as DTD informed us, we set out to find new Sponsors.

Three parties were keen to work with us, & all three were very acceptable, & fit for purpose.

All wanted exclusivity, of course.

Eventually, one was selected, & their Tenancy will commence on January 1st.

We will not reveal their name until then, as that would not be fair on DTD, who have paid up until Dec 31st.

On January 1st, we start over.

Very intensive & detailed planning is already in train to start with a bang, & sleeves are rolled up to try & make it work. I'm very optimistic that this time, we can get the blondes to support the Sponsors, which, in turn, pays blondes bills.

We shall see.

Onwards & upwards, as ever.
Hi Tikay,
So will an anouncement be made on here on the 1st Jan about the future?
Sincerely hope all goes well with this as although not been on here for that long think its brilliant and if only work didnt have net nanny would be over a thousand posts by now.

Note to santa need one of those I-phone things!!


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2010, 01:01:56 PM
Went to DTD for the first time in September for the SPT final ...can i use the same registration to play online or do I need to send shnizzle over?

xx

You need to download the software via www.dtdpoker.com, sign up, deposit and play


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: TightEnd on December 18, 2010, 01:04:46 PM

As soon as DTD informed us, we set out to find new Sponsors.

Three parties were keen to work with us, & all three were very acceptable, & fit for purpose.

All wanted exclusivity, of course.

Eventually, one was selected, & their Tenancy will commence on January 1st.

We will not reveal their name until then, as that would not be fair on DTD, who have paid up until Dec 31st.

On January 1st, we start over.

Very intensive & detailed planning is already in train to start with a bang, & sleeves are rolled up to try & make it work. I'm very optimistic that this time, we can get the blondes to support the Sponsors, which, in turn, pays blondes bills.

We shall see.

Onwards & upwards, as ever.
Hi Tikay,
So will an anouncement be made on here on the 1st Jan about the future?
Sincerely hope all goes well with this as although not been on here for that long think its brilliant and if only work didnt have net nanny would be over a thousand posts by now.

Note to santa need one of those I-phone things!!


Probably Mon 3rd, Eso. Or as son as everything is ready.

I hope people support us in January. The more that do so, the more stable the future will be and the greater chance we can get some live updates going. I, knowing me, will probably do some on a voluntary basis from GUKPTs and the like, and speaking to a couple of other venues and tours now to try and work for  them for blonde updates, but as it stands unless the new sponsorship works the live updates on blonde are going to rely on benefactors/volunteers rather than as now being viable due to lack of funding, which is a shame. 



Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: Eso Kral on December 18, 2010, 07:52:18 PM

As soon as DTD informed us, we set out to find new Sponsors.

Three parties were keen to work with us, & all three were very acceptable, & fit for purpose.

All wanted exclusivity, of course.

Eventually, one was selected, & their Tenancy will commence on January 1st.

We will not reveal their name until then, as that would not be fair on DTD, who have paid up until Dec 31st.

On January 1st, we start over.

Very intensive & detailed planning is already in train to start with a bang, & sleeves are rolled up to try & make it work. I'm very optimistic that this time, we can get the blondes to support the Sponsors, which, in turn, pays blondes bills.

We shall see.

Onwards & upwards, as ever.
Hi Tikay,
So will an anouncement be made on here on the 1st Jan about the future?
Sincerely hope all goes well with this as although not been on here for that long think its brilliant and if only work didnt have net nanny would be over a thousand posts by now.

Note to santa need one of those I-phone things!!


Probably Mon 3rd, Eso. Or as son as everything is ready.

I hope people support us in January. The more that do so, the more stable the future will be and the greater chance we can get some live updates going. I, knowing me, will probably do some on a voluntary basis from GUKPTs and the like, and speaking to a couple of other venues and tours now to try and work for  them for blonde updates, but as it stands unless the new sponsorship works the live updates on blonde are going to rely on benefactors/volunteers rather than as now being viable due to lack of funding, which is a shame. 


Im sure there are many people like me who would not mind contributing to a fund to supply updates on various tourney's as whether your in the event or not the updates get so many reads it would be ashame to lose them completley


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: tikay on December 18, 2010, 07:54:43 PM

Thanks Mr Ace-King.

I'm quite sure our Updates will survive in some form or another.


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: Eso Kral on December 18, 2010, 10:51:32 PM

Thanks Mr Ace-King.

I'm quite sure our Updates will survive in some form or another.
Np Hope to see you around soon


Title: Re: DTD & Blonde.
Post by: skolsuper on December 19, 2010, 05:54:11 PM
Just opened DTD for the first time in ages to play their sunday major. Reg and minimise, 5 mins later it pops up to tell me about their sunday major. Now I remember about their tournament announcements, I will be cashing out and uninstalling as soon as I bust. WP Boss.