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Title: Rounders 2
Post by: Amatay on December 20, 2010, 04:50:36 PM
The movie that helped spark the poker boom is returning to fire a second barrel. Miramax Films announced this week that it will be teaming up with the Weinstein Company to produce “Rounders 2,” a sequel to the cult favorite that was released more than a decade ago.

According to IMDB, “Rounders 2” is currently in development and scheduled to hit theaters in 2012. The cast and crew have not been announced, but Matt Damon (who played Mike McDermott in the first film) and Ed Norton (Lester “Worm” Murphy) have supposedly signed on for the project, as has original director John Dahl. It’s unknown whether John Malkovich (Teddy KGB) or John Turturro (Joey Knish) will return for the sequel, leaving fans to speculate where the story will take the lead characters this time around.

Miramax broke the exciting news in press release on Thursday: “Miramax and the Weinstein Company today announced an agreement to create sequels to some of Miramax’s best-known properties and to partner on potential new television shows and special edition home entertainment products. The first films to be produced under the agreement will be sequels to ‘Bad Santa,’ ‘Rounders,’ and ‘Shakespeare in Love.’” The list of potential projects listed later in the press release included “Bridget Jones’ Diary,” “Cop Land,” “From Dusk Till Dawn,” “Swingers.” “Clerks,” “Shall We Dance,” and “The Amityville Horror.”

The Weinstein Company was formed in 2005 when Harvey and Bob Weinstein, the original founders of Miramax, left the company. Since leaving the Miramax studio, the Weinstein Group has produced critically acclaimed films like “Inglorious Basterds,” “Nine,” and “The Reader.” Before the Weinsteins departed, Miramax developed award-winning films such as “Pulp Fiction” and “Chicago.” Miramax opened in 1969 and was acquired by the Walt Disney Company in 1993. Disney then sold the studio to Filmyard Holdings LLC earlier this year.

“We are very close to these films and the new management of Miramax also feels that we are in the best position to create sequels that are at once worthy and compelling in their own right,” Harvey and Bob Weinstein commented in a joint statement Thursday.

The news of the “Rounders 2” production status is very promising for poker fans, who have seen some dismal poker movies released over the past decade. “Lucky You,” starring Eric Bana, Drew Barrymore, and several poker pros including Sam Farha, Daniel Negreanu, and Barry Greenstein, was a major flop at the box office in 2006 and wasn’t received well by the poker community. “The Grand” hit theaters in 2007 and was given similar disapproval. The film, an improvisational comedy set at a poker tournament, starred poker enthusiasts Cheryl Hines, Ray Romano, and Jason Alexander, but was bashed by critics.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: bhoywonder on December 20, 2010, 04:57:59 PM
Wonder wot teddys roi is these days?


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: kinboshi on December 20, 2010, 05:06:02 PM
Yes, I know it's been posted 100 times and is years old, but it still makes me smile :D

Euro Rounders:


Michel (voiceover): "If you can't find the boorish
American hold'em player at the table within half an
hour, you are the boorish American hold'em player."

-----

TITLE/CREDITS. This entire movie is in black and
white, with subtitles.

-----

Michel (voiceover): "This game is really scummy, and
well above what I can afford to play. My entire
bankroll is riding on this one session going well.
This is Teddy CIA's place, where they only play Pot
Limit Omaha, the most sophisticated game in Europe."

- Michel knocks on the window -

Teddy CIA: "You want poker, or whore?"

Michel: "Poker. Give me three stacks of high, elitist
society."

-----

Michel: "I raise."

Teddy CIA: "It's a position raise. I call."

- The flop comes 5-7-A, with two diamonds -

Michel: "I bet the pot."

Teddy CIA: "I raise the pot."

Michel: "I reraise the pot."

Teddy CIA: "I reraise the pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel (voiceover): "I sit back and think. I have
three aces - the best possible hand. I want him to
think I'm debating a call, but really I'm just
thinking about Monte Carlo, and whatever the
[censored] is in Monte Carlo."

Michel: *shrugs* "Okay, well, I re-pot it, I'm all in,
because I don't think you have a pair." *winks at the
camera*

Teddy CIA: "Who are you winking at? It doesn't matter,
I call."

Michel (voiceover): "I know before he even says it."

Teddy CIA: "I have 8-6-4-3 with two diamonds, for a
wrap straight draw and a flush draw, which is a
favorite over your top set."

- Turn is a King. River is a 2 which gives Teddy CIA
an ace-to-five straight for the win. -

- Michel sits there, shell-shocked. -

Joey Croissant: "Come on, I'll get you a whore."

-----

Michel (voiceover): "Well, that sucked. Since then,
I've sworn off of poker and made my living as a
roadside prostitute for boorish American tourists.
Hopefully, I can pay my way through law school that
way. I can always find games, though. I could turn
this truck onto the road and be at the Taj in 19 and a
half hours."

-----

Michel (voiceover): "I'm here to pick my friend Worm
up from prison."

- Worm walks out of prison -

Michel: "Worm! It's wonderful to see you!"

- They kiss each other passionately on the mouth -

Michel: "How was prison?"

Worm: "I was brutally sodomized on a regular basis."

-----

Michel: "Look...Croissant, I never told you this, but
about a year ago, I was playing poker at the Casino
des Atlantes, and Marcel Luske walks in. He sits down
at the 50/100 pot limit game. And, I mean, the whole
place stops, right? Just watching this guy play. After
a while there isn't a retarded European gambling game
going, because everybody's just, you know, watching
this guy."

- Joey Croissant nods -

Michel: "So you know what I did? I sat down."

Joey Croissant: "No way, you need at least 300,000
euros to sit down at a game like that. Such bad
financial management is typical of a boorish
American!"

- Joey Croissant and Michel laugh for twenty-six
minutes -

Michel: "Right, okay, but seriously, I played for an
hour, doing nothing but folding. Then I won a huge
pot."

Joey Croissant: "Aces? Kings? Ace-King doublesuited?
Suited aces? High connectors? Middle doublesuited
connectors? Two big pair?"

Michel: "Rags."

Joey Croissant: "That's probably fine too, you're only
like a 48/52 dog."

Michel: "I raised. And he came over the top of me,
like I was a boorish American. I re-popped it. He
potted it again. I think for like two seconds and then
I re-pot it."

Joey Croissant: "Jesus [censored] Christ, how much
money did you have?"

Michel: "After I bet I would quietly slide my chips
back toward my stack, nobody noticed. Anyway, he
thinks for a while, looks at me, checks his cards
again, and he mucks. I take it down. And then he looks
at me and says, 'I have to know. Did you have it?' And
I said, 'I'm sorry Marcel, I can't remember.'"

Joey Croissant: "Face!"

Michel: "I know, totally. Anyway, based on that one
hand, I felt confident gambling for all the money I
had, at one time."

-----

Law Professor: "I am a Jew."

Michel: "I hate you."

-----

Teddy CIA: "We play, heads up, Pot Limit Omaha, 25 and
50 blinds, until one of us has it all?"

Michel: "Out of sheer curiosity, you realize you're
giving up like boat loads of equity by agreeing to
gamble for money that's effectively yours anyway,
right? That you could just not let me play, and then
kill me and take what I have?"

Teddy CIA: "I know, but I am a boorish American!"

- Michel and Teddy CIA laugh for seventy-two minutes -

-----

Michel (voiceover): "I pick up Ace-Ace-Jack-Ten
doublesuited."

Michel: "I raise the pot."

Teddy CIA: "Very aggressive. But, I reraise the pot."

Michael (voiceover): "He's representing
Ace-Ace-King-King doublesuited, the only hand better
than mine. I can't call, and give him a chance to
catch. I can only fold...if I believe him."

Michel: "I reraise, I'm all in."

Teddy CIA: "Take it down."

-----

- The flop reads 10-9-5, with two spades -

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot."

Teddy CIA: "Pot."

Michel: "Pot. I'm all in."

Teddy CIA: "Alright, I call. What do you have?"

Michel: "Jack high flush draw and middle set."

Teddy CIA: "Wrap, with a king high flush draw."

Michel: "Boy, I sure hope my 5:4 edge holds up,
otherwise I am going to die."

- Turn is an off-suit 5, giving Michel an unbeatable
hand. But the river is the ace of spades anyway,
because it's always the [censored] ace of spades. -

Teddy CIA: "He beat me. Pay that man his money. His
silly, silly-looking European money."

-----

Cab Driver: "Where are you off to?"

Michel: "Monte Carlo."

Cab Driver: "Good luck."

Michel: "Shut the [censored] up."


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: pokerfan on December 20, 2010, 09:05:05 PM
Bad Santa 2 should be incred.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: titaniumbean on December 20, 2010, 09:06:57 PM
I haven't seen the original rounders is it worth watching?


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Longy on December 20, 2010, 09:08:10 PM
I haven't seen the original rounders is it worth watching?

Ban.

There should be a rounders quiz on the registration form for blonde.



Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: byronkincaid on December 20, 2010, 09:11:20 PM
durrr meant to be in it. bad that he's not in HSP this year


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: titaniumbean on December 20, 2010, 09:12:25 PM
I haven't seen the original rounders is it worth watching?

Ban.

There should be a rounders quiz on the registration form for blonde.



I will go and find it now and watch it asap Sir Longy of Longton.  ;ashamed;


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: MC on December 20, 2010, 09:20:06 PM
I haven't seen the original rounders is it worth watching?

Ban.

There should be a rounders quiz on the registration form for blonde.



I will go and find it now and watch it asap Sir Longy of Longton.  ;ashamed;

I only saw it fairly recently dude, it's worth watching for sure...


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Waz1892 on December 20, 2010, 10:22:44 PM
I haven't seen the original rounders is it worth watching?

 :o

Please do quickly!  Quality film.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 20, 2010, 10:58:50 PM
never seen the eurpo rounders thing before thats hilarious!

and Andy wtf with IS IT WORTH WATCHING? thats like asking a preist if the bible is "worth reading"

roll on rounders 2.....just be warned people if it's shit there will be riots from the forums....
no pressure


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Skippy on December 20, 2010, 11:54:16 PM
never seen the eurpo rounders thing before thats hilarious!

and Andy wtf with IS IT WORTH WATCHING? thats like asking a preist if the bible is "worth reading"

roll on rounders 2.....just be warned people if it's shit there will be riots from the forums....
no pressure

Rounders is a pretty rubbish film, but it's notable for a) being the most realistic depiction of modern poker up to that point and b) being one of the things that sets off the poker boom. The poker in the film feels like actual poker- it's a bit hammed up, but you'll recognise it.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Royal Flush on December 21, 2010, 12:41:41 AM
Film is dated now but was so good when it came out


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: titaniumbean on December 21, 2010, 12:56:10 AM
I'm 40 mins in.


omg slowrolling fnararrr dieieieieie


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: AlexMartin on December 21, 2010, 02:04:51 AM
I haven't seen the original rounders is it worth watching?

not sure if serious



Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: dino1980 on December 21, 2010, 02:15:44 AM
You could actually argue, at the time, that Rounders>Super System in terms of being a poker primer.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: SuuPRlim on December 21, 2010, 02:38:37 AM
Film is dated now but was so good when it came out


Staple Must-Watch for anyone who plays though surely

I forced my ex girlfriend to watch it so I didn't have to bother explaing poker stuff to her

***DISCLAIMER*** Wouldn't advise unless in very strong relationship or your capable or not incessantly commentating throughout it.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 21, 2010, 08:12:24 AM
Miramax broke the exciting news in press release on Thursday: “Miramax and the Weinstein Company today announced an agreement to create sequels to some of Miramax’s best-known properties and to partner on potential new television shows and special edition home entertainment products. The first films to be produced under the agreement will be sequels to ‘Bad Santa,’ ‘Rounders,’ and ‘Shakespeare in Love.’” The list of potential projects listed later in the press release included “Bridget Jones’ Diary,” “Cop Land,” “From Dusk Till Dawn,” “Swingers.” “Clerks,” “Shall We Dance,” and “The Amityville Horror.”

My all time favourite movie, not sure I wanna see a sequel but would much prefer to see them do that than rounders.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: boldie on December 21, 2010, 08:14:33 AM
Is there any way this is not going to be tez?


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: DaveShoelace on December 21, 2010, 08:22:17 AM
Is there any way this is not going to be tez?

It will be bad imo. Rounders is an ok film at best, it is the best poker film but that's not hard. Back when Rounders was released the poker world was a bit mysterious, so it was a brilliant primer to get people interested and want to find out more about the game, this time round we live in a world where Phil Hellmuth is going to be on a celebrity dance show, Annie Duke wins the celebrity apprentice and Beppe from Eastenders is a GUKPT champion. The other thing I liked about Rounders was the sleazy undergroundness of it all, these days the better players would opt to play online or in Vegas to find the soft games, anyone who goes to Teddy KGBs to play would be a fool. Rounders 2 needs to be a significantly better film this time round to be in any way entertaining or to create a new boom.

That said its guaranteed a profit as every poker player (this cynic included) is going to watch it.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: boldie on December 21, 2010, 09:03:56 AM
Is there any way this is not going to be tez?

It will be bad imo. Rounders is an ok film at best, it is the best poker film but that's not hard. Back when Rounders was released the poker world was a bit mysterious, so it was a brilliant primer to get people interested and want to find out more about the game, this time round we live in a world where Phil Hellmuth is going to be on a celebrity dance show, Annie Duke wins the celebrity apprentice and Beppe from Eastenders is a GUKPT champion. The other thing I liked about Rounders was the sleazy undergroundness of it all, these days the better players would opt to play online or in Vegas to find the soft games, anyone who goes to Teddy KGBs to play would be a fool. Rounders 2 needs to be a significantly better film this time round to be in any way entertaining or to create a new boom.

That said its guaranteed a profit as every poker player (this cynic included) is going to watch it.

Well, most of them will stream it online, no? they surely won't be payoing for the privilege?


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: byronkincaid on December 21, 2010, 09:42:30 AM
Quote
anyone who goes to Teddy KGBs to play would be a fool

many places in america if you want to play live poker you need to play in underground games, new york and texas are 2 i believe


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Jon MW on December 21, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Is there any way this is not going to be tez?

It will be bad imo. Rounders is an ok film at best, it is the best poker film but that's not hard. Back when Rounders was released the poker world was a bit mysterious, so it was a brilliant primer to get people interested and want to find out more about the game, this time round we live in a world where Phil Hellmuth is going to be on a celebrity dance show, Annie Duke wins the celebrity apprentice and Beppe from Eastenders is a GUKPT champion. The other thing I liked about Rounders was the sleazy undergroundness of it all, these days the better players would opt to play online or in Vegas to find the soft games, anyone who goes to Teddy KGBs to play would be a fool. Rounders 2 needs to be a significantly better film this time round to be in any way entertaining or to create a new boom.

That said its guaranteed a profit as every poker player (this cynic included) is going to watch it.

All of that

It could be a great film if they have genuinely creative and intelligent people in it who

(a) mainly know how to make good films
(b) understand a bit about the dynamics of the poker 'world'

It will probably be awful.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Horneris on December 21, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
It won't be tez. Edward Norton is a genius.

I know hes not the director but still think anything he says as Worm will be brilliant.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Girgy85 on December 21, 2010, 03:06:05 PM
Just re watched Rounders! Classic!!


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: titaniumbean on December 21, 2010, 04:16:28 PM
I've seen it now, I think I love and hate it if that's possible.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Free_Rollin on December 21, 2010, 07:17:43 PM
I actually like Rounders as a general film, although I did watch it after I got into poker, so I am probably subconsciously biased. It definitely is a film I recommend to any serious or recreational player, or anyone in the mood to watch something a bit different. I'm really hoping Rounders 2 will be a good sequel. To be fair, all these recent attempts at poker films has been pretty disastrous.


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: titaniumbean on December 21, 2010, 07:27:52 PM
Watching Damon having conversations with his girlfriend tilted me so hard though. It's so classic.

Excellent film, thanks for making me watch it still no real idea how I didn't see it when it first came out!


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Royal Flush on December 22, 2010, 01:07:45 AM
Quote
anyone who goes to Teddy KGBs to play would be a fool

many places in america if you want to play live poker you need to play in underground games, new york and texas are 2 i believe

This Teddy KGB still runs his game in NYC i am sure


Title: Re: Rounders 2
Post by: Sark79 on March 22, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
Looking forward to it.  The first was great, with Norton and Matt Damon in it again, surely it will be worth a viewing.