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i gave niall a gun yesterday to keep him goig for xmas his mum said its wrong he has to wait till xmas day,,,,fuk that so we were going to the cinema today ending up going shooting targets ,,,much more fun....

bloody easy with sights on you can hit a match box at around 120 yards i cant belive how accurate it is it was only  £150,,,,22 pellets
and before anyone screems its wrong,,,he only uses it when hes with me,,,and only targets no birds etc,,never,,,maybe a rat if we see one,,

you should really focus on gun safety, gun savvy and everything else that goes with it.

Hammer this home now and he will be gun safe for life.

Enjoy the shooting - great discipline to learn

Close ups of the rifle pls.

Smk s19 22 rifle with a zoom scope thing
Bag 1000 pellets some chit targets oh and the guy threw in a big Bowie knife
Niall needed a nice knife for fishing
He's very very sensible
He loves out door hunting fishing archery stuff
He never kills anything he always puts fish back
Mind you last summer we tried out archery on some river salmon

I can't believe how accurate this bloody gun is honest it's unbelievable
I'd say serious 120 we can hit a matchbox
I don't know whether we are the best shots in the world or it's the gun lolol
I think it's the gun lolol

Anyone know anything about this type of rifle??

Yes, It's max legal power for the UK, reasonably light, fairly quiet and accurate, It's a good budget rifle.

Sigh...  thought he would have bitten by now.  ;laxie;

Don't get that Tom???
We just set up indoor range 70 feet away big box with targets draw on it and I can hit a 1cm round felt pen mark
I can't believe it honestly
Sososo accurate

Never mind James, probably a bit subtle for you.

Hey, try throwing a tin can up and shooting at it shotgun fashion. i.e. don't sight it, just track with both eyes open and shoot.

Takes a bit of practice but you soon get the knack.

PS- Do this outdoors.

BTW- I'm still on the wind up. I don't want you to get the hump and kill me....

Tom!

Safe shooting first please

It's OK, Sofa has thick skin.

I hope,./,,/,/,,

Not as thick as your toupee hehe

meh my gf me my crimbo present at the end of november

she got sooooo excited she opened it for me in november

lol


btw it was the man bag

Oh dear oh dear
Was having loads of fun
Went to check thick card board double thickness box with 12 mm marine ply behind
Then a oak chair then the wall oh dear lots of holes in the new  fresh flat plastered
Painted wall lol fuk it's powerful
I just read a guy tests them by firing through yellow pages
It goes through 560 pages apparently
No more shooting indoors

leave shooting to ranges and professional instructors

its a air rifle, let the kid have fun at home. Why does this country try wrapping everyone up in cotton wool

Yeh lets give everyone guns and start shooting everyone

Or, give everyone a computer so that they can argue online all day.

If that refers to my comments, I have shot since I was 13. I was taught very well.

I have also shot with too many clowns in my time. Learn it day 1 and it comes natural! I am all for people shooting as a discipline, but safety is paramount, and that's got nothing to do with nanny state!

If the gun is that accurate and he wants to earn a few quid I have a few people on my list I would like reminded that it was very stupid to upset me.  ;D

air rifles can and have killed

U can kill someone with a toothpick if u stab them 1,000,000 times with it.
U can also kill someone with a hair off your head

guns don't kill, it is people that kill and they don't need guns to do it.

I think it's a lot easier to accidentally kill someone with a gun than a toothpick though ;)

In response to the original question, no it isn't.

It's entirely up to you to decide when to give your child a present.

However by letting him have it on the 24th it just becomes a gift as opposed to a Christmas present so you still owe him one.

I don't care how much Santa paper you wrapped around it if it's opened before the 25th it's not a Christmas present.

FYP

This cliche annoys me more than any other.

Guns belong in the hands of professional people.

Certainly not kids.

baseball caps should be on baseballers or sponsored pros...

Good to know - if you ever see Sofa walking up to you and he pulls a hair from his head......................... RUN!

Cars kill way more people than guns (in the UK at least). A disproportionate number of these deaths are young people. Yet we still teach them to drive.

No of cars in UK please.
No of guns in the UK please.

How frequently they are used would be nice too.

TIA

And a break down on the type of bullets used?

They say only3% of people are killed by drunk drivers in the Uk
As to 97% of other drivers not drunk

It would be safer if everyone drove pissed according to those statistics

Joke joke joke joke

I'd like to see some proper gun clubs in this country... places where you could experience the firing of guns..with the club obv keeping the guns etc... i don't advocate people owning guns and keeping them in their own homes but I don't think theres anything wrong with a few licensed strictly run gun clubs.

TBH i thought these actually existed in this country...until my wife and I went to join a 'gun ' club a few years ago but all we found were lots of blokes in camouflage outfits shooting airguns.. when i enquired whether they had access to proper handguns they all looked at me as if I had raped their first born.. I never knew our gun laws were so draconian... pretty ironic really when you think you can buy fully automatic SMG's from a bloke down the pub so you can do your best Gangbanger impression with your Homies... anyway these blokes were more scary than any gun they could have produced..they were actually crawling through the undergrowth on sniping missions ffs.

I agree only professional people ... police etc should have guns..

looking back sicilidonk, are you pleased your ex-wife didnt get access to a gun?  :D

Its possible the biggest fight would have been who got to pull the trigger first.. however in those days i was worth more dead than alive so wouldnt have fancied my chances with her appetite for money..

She used a much more deadly weapon.. Barnes & Co Solicitors

seems like a balance opinion

shooting is an excellent thing for people to learn in the right environment. It sounds like you have had a bad experience - and in the example you gave above  - i would be all for the police turning up and confiscating their guns and licences and sending them to play paintball.

I have taught 100's of people to shoot (some casually, some went on to be good shots). I have even taught younger kids (14-16), and its amazing how even the little scrotes can be turned into well disciplined shooters if taught in the right way from day 1 (hence my original comment in this thread). If they know how they are expected to behave around guns, and they know they wont get to shoot if they step slightly out of line, they will just do things right by way of good habit.

We have good gun laws in this country, but gun laws or not - if you are intent on getting a gun for illegal purposes - the laws dont matter either way surely?

seems like you know what your talking about mate./././so just help me out a little,.,.,.are me and my son good shots or is it the gun??
paced out 45yds put targets up and seriously out of 10 shots each on 10 diff targets we put up at 45 ydsw i hit the bull 6 times and just outside 3 and 3 inches away the last one,,,get this my 13 year old hit the bull 8 times the other 2 in the next ring,,,,.,.,we thin we should go in the 2012 olypics lol,.,.,.,.the gun is a smk 22 with scope was about £150 ish new...hes really pleased with it,,,me too when hes not here its mine lololol

Try doing it from 450 yards , from 45 yards I could hit the bull without sights, BTW there are gun clubs in the UK called army,navy,raf reserves but the might get you to put the practice into use

Have a look here (http://www.bfta.net/jsite3/) at the club finder page, find a club near you and go and take a look,it beats plinking in the garden.

Have been involved in target shooting most of my youth, may family still are, from my experience £150 isn't a decent rifle but will be fine for hitting tin cans in a back yard. If you do want to find out if you are any good and want to do it right this (http://www.nsra.co.uk/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1) would be the place to get involved.

Are crossbows illegal ? I quite fancy one of them

No. You can buy (or make) one that will shoot straight through both doors of a 3ltr Ford Capri and still have enough power left over to kill a black rhino that happened to be loitering on the other side.

For car park face offs

Ooh, I probably shouldn't get one - to Sicilians point, I only want to frighten off bullies - perhaps its better to just keep on hiding behind Jim McBride

i went clay pigeon shooting for the first time yesterday. It was good fun but damn its difficult.

Tape your nose down, cos.