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Title: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: 77dave on January 02, 2011, 01:59:36 PM
Went to the vic last night to play cash. They have moved the room around and the comps are now next to the cashier.

The comp last night was a £50 f/o Gtd at £2k space for 40 players only.

The juice on the comp was £2 which i thought was very cheap for the vic.

As the comp was running i noticed that the number of buyins and size of prizepool didnt match up.

In the end they got 20 alternates into the comp, which meant 60 runners and obv a £3k expected prizepool.

The prizepool showing on the screens was £2700, meaning they took £2 up front and then 10% of the prizepool.

Opinions?


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: GreekStein on January 02, 2011, 02:03:06 PM
Obviously dont agree with it and it's even worse that they don't let you know in advance.

I've never ever liked most of the Vic Cardroom staff (apart from the incred Dr Raab when he was working there) and what's worse, we now don't have anyone to really go to, to talk about these things as we do with places like DTD etc.



Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: TightEnd on January 02, 2011, 02:05:51 PM
I noticed yesterday that the Grosvenor Newcastle are doing the same on their new schedule, thread in live poker

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=51255.0

Smaller reg fee, and take 10% from the prize pool

I do hope this is not a chain wide decision.



Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: 77dave on January 02, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
I mentioned it at Luton last night and they hadnt heard of it.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: gatso on January 02, 2011, 02:26:49 PM
I mentioned it at Luton last night and they hadnt heard of it.

they haven't heard of most poker rules though tbh

so 15.5% juice. way too much but still a lot better than dtd's 40+8 jobby. not good that they're stealth taxing it though


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: leethefish on January 02, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
as in most cases i think if they explained it we would not mind,

 but its when its hidden that its anoying.

 as far as i am aware  of it  for eg dtd charge a little more but you always know what you are paying and its worth the extra...in my opinion.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Karabiner on January 02, 2011, 02:55:47 PM
I mentioned it at Luton last night and they hadnt heard of it.

they haven't heard of most poker rules though tbh

so 15.5% juice. way too much but still a lot better than dtd's 40+8 jobby. not good that they're stealth taxing it though

I don't think that £8 in total juice for a £40 rebuy tourney with a £25K guarantee is even slightly unreasonable.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on January 02, 2011, 03:02:57 PM
I mentioned it at Luton last night and they hadnt heard of it.

they haven't heard of most poker rules though tbh

so 15.5% juice. way too much but still a lot better than dtd's 40+8 jobby. not good that they're stealth taxing it though

I don't think that £8 in total juice for a £40 rebuy tourney with a £25K guarantee is even slightly unreasonable.

Quite agree, decent product and service and all that!


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Madone on January 02, 2011, 03:04:24 PM
The reg fee and 10% deduction is clearly stated in the vic tournament booklet, from what i can see.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: RED-DOG on January 02, 2011, 03:45:40 PM
The reg fee and 10% deduction is clearly stated in the vic tournament booklet, from what i can see.

Lol.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: GreekStein on January 02, 2011, 03:47:34 PM
+1 to Ralph.

& lol @ the vic's tournament booklet.

Whether it's in there or not, its rubbish and shows they don't give a toss about poker.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Madone on January 02, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
The reg fee and 10% deduction is clearly stated in the vic tournament booklet, from what i can see.

Lol.

hey i was just stating what it says, makes no difference to me.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: titaniumbean on January 02, 2011, 04:44:30 PM
I've always hated the vic, you're all on my side now yay



IMA UNDERRAISE YOU SIR THAT'LL TEACH YOU. ahahahaha


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Karabiner on January 02, 2011, 08:44:45 PM
This is actually very bad news, the house interfering with the prize-pools is just not on.

The old eminence grise on here warned us a year or two back that we should do our utmost to protect the prize-pools from deductions and that all registration fees should be transparent and separate from them.

"The thin end of the wedge" was how he referred to %age deductions IIRC.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Skgv on January 03, 2011, 01:33:38 AM
The reg fee and 10% deduction is clearly stated in the vic tournament booklet, from what i can see.

Lol.

hey i was just stating what it says, makes no difference to me.
Dont lie you a vicette all day long an im not far behind !


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: skolsuper on January 03, 2011, 08:23:59 AM
Worst. Blog thread. Ever.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Skgv on January 03, 2011, 03:44:54 PM
Worst. Blog thread. Ever.
u still read it !


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: Dry em on January 03, 2011, 09:31:39 PM
The reg fee and 10% deduction is clearly stated in the vic tournament booklet, from what i can see.

Lol.

why lol?


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: RED-DOG on January 03, 2011, 09:49:44 PM
Because, IMHO, any deductions should be clearly stated in big letters on a sign at the tournament cash desk where everyone can see them. Not in a booklet.


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: ScottMGee on January 03, 2011, 10:06:53 PM
[quoteBecause, IMHO, any deductions should be clearly stated in big letters on a sign at the tournament cash desk where everyone can see them. Not in a booklet.][/quote]

+1

Also the £2k guarantee is then only £1,800!


Title: Re: Double Charges at The Vic
Post by: GreekStein on January 03, 2011, 10:50:15 PM
Because, IMHO, any deductions should be clearly stated in big letters on a sign at the tournament cash desk where everyone can see them. Not in a booklet.

agree. It would be all over the world if they were adding money to a tournament, so every player should know when they are taking from it.