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***** Hand History for Game 3717472660 ***** (Prima)
$400.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, January 11, 01:28:58 ET 2011
Table Walk the Line 2 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Patronenx ( $398.74 USD )
Seat 2: Sk1llGaMe ( $819.30 USD )
Seat 3: fokakorv ( $659.20 USD )
Seat 4: bigbadbabaar ( $425.60 USD )
Seat 5: MrCurtains ( $416.00 USD )
Seat 6: elpocoloco ( $999.10 USD )
bigbadbabaar posts small blind [$2.00 USD].
MrCurtains posts big blind [$4.00 USD].
Dealt to Sk1llGaMe [  Jc Qc ]
elpocoloco raises [$12.00 USD]
Patronenx calls [$12.00 USD]
Sk1llGaMe calls [$12.00 USD]
fokakorv calls [$12.00 USD]
bigbadbabaar folds
MrCurtains folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Js, Jh ]
elpocoloco checks
Patronenx checks
Sk1llGaMe checks
fokakorv bets [$40.00 USD]
elpocoloco folds
Patronenx raises [$80.00 USD]
Sk1llGaMe calls [$80.00 USD]
fokakorv calls [$40.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
Patronenx checks
Sk1llGaMe checks
fokakorv bets [$148.00 USD]
Patronenx folds


Patronex is a fish, i have a reliable read that he does stuff like cr TT on 44A, does a lot of weird shit, then just shuts down. Fokacorv is a very good reg who at the time was down a lot in session, so probably tilted.  I checked the flop specifically to get him to spaz out, but after flop action and my hand looking pretty strong, turn is a tough spot. thoughts?

shove

think i prefer calling and keeping his bluffs in

like u said u think he might be tilting

shove and dont let him check back 88/99 otr.

Meh, with your call on the flop it's clear that you, should, have a J here, the board is as dry as anything and you can't have anything worse...would he bet with a weaker jack Say J/10, J9? If he could do this ussually and might now be tilting it's a call (hoping he bets again on the river) for me. Don't see the point in shoving here as he's not going to call with anything worse, is he?

urgghh, its probably a fold hes repping really tight but no-one really bluffs in these spots multiway.

his line is pure strength and he's expecting a donation from one of you on the turn, thats the obvious story but the fact of your thoughts on the fish make it interesting.

he knows you can be calling with an underpair or air against fish with the knowledge of possible shutdown. When he smooth calls the fish raise that spanners your plans and now you bottle it on the turn and check and he can swoop in with the profitable bluff?

So i could make a big argument to fold but could come up with a story to call, especially if you think he won't 3 barrell a bluff.

i really like that last post, especially the last line.

he may be setting up a river shove or at least a perceived river shove so that you check the river and he checks behind 1010

How can a very good reg who we are told is tilted ever have TT here when he is on the button and its gone raise, call, call in front of him- the initial raiser has 250bbs, the initial caller is a fish and the 2nd caller is Alex who is 200bbs deep.

Falk is 100-1 to have TT with me, and thats probably lacking a 0

You think the reg bets TT for value after this flop action?? That would almost certainly not be a value bet. As played probably call turn and c/f river. Shoving turn is terrible. Calling and leading blank rivers is terrible.

I would say his range is JT, KJ, AJ and 22 with a negligibly small chance of some random hands like overpairs, bluffs.  Find a fold and don't let it bother you too much of he shows you something random or JT.

you must have made a mistake or i'm being sarcasm wooshed, nobody ever gives my H A any cred.

ok yh thinking about it he wont ever TT on the turn.......................

my bad.

Silly game this poker

cool, good responses. i folded fwiw, just dont see him taking this line with worse for value and ever really bluffing.

I'd just keep middle buttoning it and get to showdown. Without a read that he's down alot so could be tilty then i'd like the turn fold more.

Yeah he's clearly very rarely bluffing here with us looking so strong and with a fish in the pot.  What do you think about leading the turn?  I think if the reg calls  then is range is wider than his betting range and we have the benefit of getting more value from the fish if it would have checked through instead as well as preventing the reg from fucking with us since I think we can expect him to call or fold his entire range since he will want to keep the fish in the pot.  We also protect/get value from turned draws which I don't think the reg raises since we obviously have a value hand.  Downside is we might lose value from some two pair hands although I don't expect the reg to call them on the river anyway.