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Title: 100NLHU C/shove turn line Post by: pleno1 on January 14, 2011, 08:01:07 PM Second hand against a guy that is a marginal winner over 8k hands according to PTR. Thoughts?
Full Tilt Poker Game #27271392129: Table Mayflower (heads up, deep) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:58:01 ET - 2011/01/14 Seat 1: pads1161 ($200) Seat 2: 123uno ($133.25) 123uno posts the small blind of $0.50 pads1161 posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pads1161 [Qc Ad] 123uno raises to $3 pads1161 raises to $11 123uno calls $8 *** FLOP *** [5s 2c 3c] pads1161 bets $11 123uno calls $11 *** TURN *** [5s 2c 3c] [Kc] pads1161 checks 123uno bets $28 pads1161 raises to $178, and is all in 123uno folds Uncalled bet of $150 returned to pads1161 pads1161 mucks pads1161 wins the pot ($99.50) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $100 | Rake $0.50 Board: [5s 2c 3c Kc] Seat 1: pads1161 (big blind) collected ($99.50), mucked Seat 2: 123uno (small blind) folded on the Turn Title: Re: 100NLHU C/shove turn line Post by: Whollyflush on January 14, 2011, 09:38:53 PM you almost certainly had the best hand, personally i prefer just barrelling. If he just ships over you turn bet his most likely hands will include the Ac so we are happy to fold. Also easier to balance from when you are value betting a K or an overpair to the flop cards.
Title: Re: 100NLHU C/shove turn line Post by: Rupert on January 15, 2011, 07:43:09 AM I think he checks back this turn a lot with all his one pair type hands and may even not bluff his A highs. This makes his turn betting range pretty strong and he wouldn't expect us to check/raise such a good barrel card strong since there's still a ton of stuff he can call with. So I much prefer just barrelling a ton of our range here and once dynamics established we can merge with A5+. I'm generally going 3 barrels on this sort of board as we can get so much to fold by the river (obviously sometimes we fold out worse too but our hands too weak to do anything else)
Title: Re: 100NLHU C/shove turn line Post by: Patonius2000 on January 15, 2011, 07:12:01 PM I think he checks back this turn a lot with all his one pair type hands and may even not bluff his A highs. This makes his turn betting range pretty strong and he wouldn't expect us to check/raise such a good barrel card strong since there's still a ton of stuff he can call with. So I much prefer just barrelling a ton of our range here and once dynamics established we can merge with A5+. I'm generally going 3 barrels on this sort of board as we can get so much to fold by the river (obviously sometimes we fold out worse too but our hands too weak to do anything else) Pretty much mostly all this. Check shoving the turn is definitely fine and if you want a crai turn range this is a good hand to have in it. Fwiw I'd usually start out a hunl match bet bet betting here and would be dong some crai once it's established I'm doing a lot of bet bet betting. Title: Re: 100NLHU C/shove turn line Post by: pleno1 on January 16, 2011, 04:26:30 PM I think he checks back this turn a lot with all his one pair type hands and may even not bluff his A highs. This makes his turn betting range pretty strong and he wouldn't expect us to check/raise such a good barrel card strong since there's still a ton of stuff he can call with. So I much prefer just barrelling a ton of our range here and once dynamics established we can merge with A5+. I'm generally going 3 barrels on this sort of board as we can get so much to fold by the river (obviously sometimes we fold out worse too but our hands too weak to do anything else) Pretty much mostly all this. Check shoving the turn is definitely fine and if you want a crai turn range this is a good hand to have in it. Fwiw I'd usually start out a hunl match bet bet betting here and would be dong some crai once it's established I'm doing a lot of bet bet betting. ty, info in this thread is v.v. good thankyou :) |