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Title: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 02:53:24 PM
Blinds 50 100
9.5k
Only been on the table for 25 mins arrived late
In sb called a 2.5x raise from  with 22 
Bb called

Flop 2 10 j two clubs

Lead for 450
Bb raises to 2.5k
Original raiser raises to 5.3k


Easy jam right?
Some nits were saying fold fold early in tourney can find better spots.

Blah blah blah


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 21, 2011, 02:54:58 PM
Course its a shove you twat



Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Bongo on January 21, 2011, 02:55:56 PM
My biggest problem would be figuring out how to get my chips in while I had both hands in the air.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: celtic on January 21, 2011, 02:59:22 PM
Fold.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
Course its a shove you twat



This is why I love the bopkinator!!!!


And fold pre clown!


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: BulldozerD on January 21, 2011, 03:00:46 PM
Mbsfn


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: kinboshi on January 21, 2011, 03:04:04 PM
You out Paul?


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Dubai on January 21, 2011, 03:04:41 PM
I definitely think its a fold


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 03:06:17 PM
Thought so well it wasn't me in the hand with 2s

I have got the confirmation I need now


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: skolsuper on January 21, 2011, 03:07:23 PM
I definitely think its a fold

lol


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: gatso on January 21, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
Thought so well it wasn't me in the hand with 2s

I have got the confirmation I need now

and you got that by reading how everyone disagrees? what's the conclusion?


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: EvilPie on January 21, 2011, 03:11:18 PM
There's a lot of really bad players in this and a lot of satellite winners.

The chances of someone overplaying an over pair or even AJ are pretty huge so I can never fold a set here.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 03:11:52 PM
Only read hopkins comment and he is correct 1000% on everything.

Still in
 I had tens in that hand and KO herbert (2s guy)
Lost a 10k pot last hand before the break but still have 21k


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: EvilPie on January 21, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
Jason Herbert's the nittiest of nits.

He's one of the few people who I'd think were capable of laying down a set here.

You were lucky that he thought you might be one of the spewtards over playing an overpair.

GLGL.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 21, 2011, 03:24:41 PM
Twat on twat action! Lol

You know I love you HoHo, I just have this idea your actually quite good, but then you post questions which are most simplez


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: pleno1 on January 21, 2011, 03:27:26 PM
depending on who it is i can DEFINITELY find a fold.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 03:29:40 PM
Twat on twat action! Lol

You know I love you HoHo, I just have this idea your actually quite good, but then you post questions which are most simplez


if you keep up this high standard I may just not care about that goddam buyin  ;grr;
 


;tightend; ;tightend;



Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
Imo I can find a fold here but I will feel HORRIBLE
But then I will remind my self I am chinese and call


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: EvilPie on January 21, 2011, 03:35:48 PM
Imo I can find a fold here but I will feel HORRIBLE
But then I will remind my self I am chinese and call

If Jason Herbert gets it in I can find a fold with bottom set.

Likewise Mickey Wernick, Red Dog + a few others who I've heard rumours about folding KK pre and laying down AA to heavy action on the flop.

Against a random I take the risk that I've been coolered.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Matt what would u do if I raised to 5.3k into u?


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: BulldozerD on January 21, 2011, 03:42:43 PM
Matt what would u do if I raised to 5.3k into u?
Did you do this from a 10k stack?


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: EvilPie on January 21, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Matt what would u do if I raised to 5.3k into u?

Get coolered.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 03:49:56 PM
I had a 12k stack


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: toddswain on January 21, 2011, 04:06:57 PM
My biggest problem would be figuring out how to get my chips in while I had both hands in the air.

Made me laugh, im not good enough to find a fold here in a 100e donkament


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 04:14:48 PM
This is the problem with live poker, online i'd be spinning around on my chair one finger in the air whilst giggling pathetically whilst live you have to sit there and wait a good 4 mins then quietly move all in and look slightly jaded and sad....... be much funnier if we all started actually putting our hands in the air and going yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!! rotflmfao


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Rupert on January 21, 2011, 04:28:08 PM
Quote
Made me laugh, im not good enough to find a fold here in a 100e donkament

im just not good enough to fold in anything we got a SET!


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: pleno1 on January 21, 2011, 04:34:57 PM
5.3 looks so strong. Is there a flush draw out? We are beating j10..


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: GreekStein on January 21, 2011, 04:52:52 PM
I doubt I'm folding top pair decent kicker to a chinese lad.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
Tbh I didn't know what to do but I knew I wasn't folding or flatting

Raising looks a lot like an over pair
So does shoving

I suppose


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
I doubt I'm folding top pair decent kicker to a chinese lad.

 Ahrt


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 21, 2011, 05:48:04 PM
Course its a shove you twat

Twat on twat action! Lol

I doubt I'm folding top pair decent kicker to a chinese lad.


All just brilliant, brilliant posts - A* Hopkin contribution

seriously tho I'm actually surprised herbet stacked here - I always feel like a proper moron when i loose a 100+bb pot in a tournament with a decent-ish clock and a terrible field, it just sjhouldnt happen unless you get outdrawn badly imo



Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Lord Alpha on January 21, 2011, 05:58:52 PM
hi. this is jason posting on my mates acc. i arrived late as paul says. was not feeling the karma. 10 hands previous in bb with 99 and utg opens to 625 when blinds are still 25/50. i ask him to show me what hand opens that raise with. he ignores me so i call and check fold his 2k bet on the flop.then i give wadey some shit and tell him he is a disgrace to poker and take the £5000 golden chip off him when he goes out with 66 on a flop of 622 and man calls him with 99 to hit a 9 on river.wadey is a mate so was only messing with him. only a couple of hands later with the golden chip burning a hole in my pocket i am in sb with 22 and flat pauls 2.5x raise so does my utg man who is obv bb now. with 750 in the pot i lead out 300....my 12.5x buddy makes it 2k  and i think happy days i'm all in even before paul makes it 5k...you are right. i am super nitty and would like to think i should have found a fold with only 300 invested but Jc10c2x is so draw heavy i had already discounted jj i thought i was miles ahead. only when paul started to think i knew i was in trouble big time. he told me its a long drive back to scunny (another sic rub coz i'm still banned till march) and before i had chance to say "i dont like the draw heavy board so i have to get my chips in whilst i am ahead and i hate jacks" he called. sighhhh. no lift home  for hours n hours nhours


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
Jason Paul is a massive clown and we're all stacking off there all day long. Try to hit the 2 next time innit!!!!

Good luck at cash!!!


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 21, 2011, 06:08:31 PM
hi. this is jason posting on my mates acc. i arrived late as paul says. was not feeling the karma. 10 hands previous in bb with 99 and utg opens to 625 when blinds are still 25/50. i ask him to show me what hand opens that raise with. he ignores me so i call and check fold his 2k bet on the flop.then i give wadey some shit and tell him he is a disgrace to poker and take the £5000 golden chip off him when he goes out with 66 on a flop of 622 and man calls him with 99 to hit a 9 on river.wadey is a mate so was only messing with him. only a couple of hands later with the golden chip burning a hole in my pocket i am in sb with 22 and flat pauls 2.5x raise so does my utg man who is obv bb now. with 750 in the pot i lead out 300....my 12.5x buddy makes it 2k  and i think happy days i'm all in even before paul makes it 5k...you are right. i am super nitty and would like to think i should have found a fold with only 300 invested but Jc10c2x is so draw heavy i had already discounted jj i thought i was miles ahead. only when paul started to think i knew i was in trouble big time. he told me its a long drive back to scunny (another sic rub coz i'm still banned till march) and before i had chance to say "i dont like the draw heavy board so i have to get my chips in whilst i am ahead and i hate jacks" he called. sighhhh. no lift home  for hours n hours nhours

spewy hand imo, that shit wont put a porsche you cant drive on the driveway


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: smashedagain on January 21, 2011, 06:36:57 PM
yes porsche i cant drive n gsxr i cant fall off. Last year had a nice year but since i been slagging off all these bad players blaming varience for playing bad, old karma has come n bit my arse. Other than having rob yong double my stack up 2 nights running between boxing day and new year when the wife and i had a domestic pickings have been slim. Gl to all blondes today and for the new year


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 21, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
It wasn't ment tobe a  rub u its just cos I live near scunny also


Standard cooler imo
Ul


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 07:32:41 PM
hi. this is jason posting on my mates acc. i arrived late as paul says. was not feeling the karma. 10 hands previous in bb with 99 and utg opens to 625 when blinds are still 25/50. i ask him to show me what hand opens that raise with. he ignores me so i call and check fold his 2k bet on the flop.then i give wadey some shit and tell him he is a disgrace to poker and take the £5000 golden chip off him when he goes out with 66 on a flop of 622 and man calls him with 99 to hit a 9 on river.wadey is a mate so was only messing with him. only a couple of hands later with the golden chip burning a hole in my pocket i am in sb with 22 and flat pauls 2.5x raise so does my utg man who is obv bb now. with 750 in the pot i lead out 300....my 12.5x buddy makes it 2k  and i think happy days i'm all in even before paul makes it 5k...you are right. i am super nitty and would like to think i should have found a fold with only 300 invested but Jc10c2x is so draw heavy i had already discounted jj i thought i was miles ahead. only when paul started to think i knew i was in trouble big time. he told me its a long drive back to scunny (another sic rub coz i'm still banned till march) and before i had chance to say "i dont like the draw heavy board so i have to get my chips in whilst i am ahead and i hate jacks" he called. sighhhh. no lift home  for hours n hours nhours

spewy hand imo, that shit wont put a porsche you cant drive on the driveway





weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  Ahrt


POAST MORE


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: pleno1 on January 21, 2011, 08:11:20 PM
hi. this is jason posting on my mates acc. i arrived late as paul says. was not feeling the karma. 10 hands previous in bb with 99 and utg opens to 625 when blinds are still 25/50. i ask him to show me what hand opens that raise with. he ignores me so i call and check fold his 2k bet on the flop.then i give wadey some shit and tell him he is a disgrace to poker and take the £5000 golden chip off him when he goes out with 66 on a flop of 622 and man calls him with 99 to hit a 9 on river.wadey is a mate so was only messing with him. only a couple of hands later with the golden chip burning a hole in my pocket i am in sb with 22 and flat pauls 2.5x raise so does my utg man who is obv bb now. with 750 in the pot i lead out 300....my 12.5x buddy makes it 2k  and i think happy days i'm all in even before paul makes it 5k...you are right. i am super nitty and would like to think i should have found a fold with only 300 invested but Jc10c2x is so draw heavy i had already discounted jj i thought i was miles ahead. only when paul started to think i knew i was in trouble big time. he told me its a long drive back to scunny (another sic rub coz i'm still banned till march) and before i had chance to say "i dont like the draw heavy board so i have to get my chips in whilst i am ahead and i hate jacks" he called. sighhhh. no lift home  for hours n hours nhours

spewy hand imo, that shit wont put a porsche you cant drive on the driveway





weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  Ahrt


POAST MORE


titbeam, i think you should get a blog :)


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: smashedagain on January 21, 2011, 08:25:32 PM
Imo I can find a fold here but I will feel HORRIBLE
But then I will remind my self I am chinese and call

If Jason Herbert gets it in I can find a fold with bottom set.

Likewise Mickey Wernick, Red Dog + a few others who I've heard rumours about folding KK pre and laying down AA to heavy action on the flop.
This is like a big compliment to me. Mickey tom and a few others are my heros
Against a random I take the risk that I've been coolered.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: titaniumbean on January 21, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
hi. this is jason posting on my mates acc. i arrived late as paul says. was not feeling the karma. 10 hands previous in bb with 99 and utg opens to 625 when blinds are still 25/50. i ask him to show me what hand opens that raise with. he ignores me so i call and check fold his 2k bet on the flop.then i give wadey some shit and tell him he is a disgrace to poker and take the £5000 golden chip off him when he goes out with 66 on a flop of 622 and man calls him with 99 to hit a 9 on river.wadey is a mate so was only messing with him. only a couple of hands later with the golden chip burning a hole in my pocket i am in sb with 22 and flat pauls 2.5x raise so does my utg man who is obv bb now. with 750 in the pot i lead out 300....my 12.5x buddy makes it 2k  and i think happy days i'm all in even before paul makes it 5k...you are right. i am super nitty and would like to think i should have found a fold with only 300 invested but Jc10c2x is so draw heavy i had already discounted jj i thought i was miles ahead. only when paul started to think i knew i was in trouble big time. he told me its a long drive back to scunny (another sic rub coz i'm still banned till march) and before i had chance to say "i dont like the draw heavy board so i have to get my chips in whilst i am ahead and i hate jacks" he called. sighhhh. no lift home  for hours n hours nhours

spewy hand imo, that shit wont put a porsche you cant drive on the driveway





weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  Ahrt


POAST MORE


titbeam, i think you should get a blog :)


nothing to say fella.


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Skgv on January 21, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
Imo I can find a fold here but I will feel HORRIBLE
But then I will remind my self I am chinese and call
Best statement of the year so far!


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 21, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
It wasn't ment tobe a  rub u its just cos I live near scunny also


Standard cooler imo
Ul

my rub was meant to be a rub in case anyone didnt realise

:)


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: action man on January 21, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
i mean randoms in this tourn wont be playing combo draws like this or overpairs, so get it in if u dont like money


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: pleno1 on January 21, 2011, 10:42:21 PM
i mean randoms in this tourn wont be playing combo draws like this or overpairs, so get it in if u dont like money

Def +1


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Sack it off on January 21, 2011, 11:02:35 PM
"Twat on twat action" hahahaha


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: EvilPie on January 21, 2011, 11:20:47 PM
i mean randoms in this tourn wont be playing combo draws like this or overpairs, so get it in if u dont like money

Not played DTD too often have you Trigg.......


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: pleno1 on January 22, 2011, 01:01:18 AM
what would you do with KQcc and 10J Mr.Ho?


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 22, 2011, 04:36:27 AM
what would you do with KQcc and 10J Mr.Ho?

probs the same

sometimes i flat some times i raise

the other info i had which herbert didnt was (but he did witness it once)
 previously the guy who raised to 2.5k over bets to redic amounts
ie 2 limps @50 100 he raises to 3k
raises to 625 utg within the first two levels
bets 5k into a 600 pot
raise fold 60% of his stack on a dry flop
etc etc

I think it will be such a hand against this spaztard


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: Royal Flush on January 22, 2011, 06:52:22 AM
This is the problem with live poker, online i'd be spinning around on my chair one finger in the air whilst giggling pathetically whilst live you have to sit there and wait a good 4 mins then quietly move all in and look slightly jaded and sad....... be much funnier if we all started actually putting our hands in the air and going yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!! rotflmfao


ermm i do this.....

As for hand, get it in.

As for peeling a 12x oop with 99, errrmmmm


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: smashedagain on January 22, 2011, 09:58:52 AM
had another comedy hand with greek jack and another couple of randoms... jack makes a std raise which i flat and the two other guys shove for about 4k each and jack makes a crying call and so do i fully expecting to be in bad shape but am pleasently suprised... i have    Ac Qc v gj with Ks Qs v  Kc Qd v  Jd  9d....flop comes  Ahrt 9s 2h...guy next to me says "fuck i folded nines too".. Qh on turn and i burst out "they're all drawing dead".....river 9c omg.....jaw drops and i look at the guy next to me and says "i cant call a raise with 9 2"


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: SuuPRlim on January 22, 2011, 02:32:36 PM
Hand   Equity   Wins   Ties
Ks Qs     13.76%   64,024   108,821
Kc Qd   7.02%   6,687   108,821
Jd 9d           27.34%   225,768   15,469
Ac Qc   38.97%   329,989   5,868
9h 2s    12.91%   103,052   15,469


why can't he call a raise with 92?


Title: Re: bottom set early in grand prix
Post by: paulhouk03 on January 22, 2011, 06:38:18 PM
nits