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Title: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: toddswain on January 23, 2011, 02:50:19 PM
Seat 1: bluffmetendr ($384.65 in chips)
Seat 2: toddswain ($128 in chips)
bluffmetendr: posts small blind $0.50
toddswain: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to toddswain [Ac As]
bluffmetendr: raises $2 to $3
toddswain: raises $7 to $10
bluffmetendr: calls $7
*** FLOP *** [4h 7d 5s]
toddswain: checks
bluffmetendr: bets $1
toddswain: raises $7 to $8
bluffmetendr: raises $17 to $25
toddswain:


ive 3bet him 20% of hands hes opened out of about 100 hands, hes only peeled once were he folded to cbet. He was sat on $300+ when i joined table so not many big pots to discuss, whats our flop line here ?


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: EvilPie on January 23, 2011, 03:18:28 PM
Looks like he's on a heroic bluff / semi bluff.

Raise to about $50 and let him follow through with it.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: Rupert on January 23, 2011, 03:21:02 PM
Quite hard to say with no prior dynamic really.  Are you 3 betting him polarised or depolarised and does he know this?  Do we know anything about his 4 bet range?  I'm assuming he's quite fishy given the $1 donk lead so i'd make it more on the flop since he generally has a one pair showdown bound hand when he leads for that amount.  Once he 3 bets however i'd say he's at the top of his $1/3b range which certainly can include all sets and some straights depending on how often he folds to your 3 bets/opens buttons and occasionally show up with A6s and some random shit like 99 so i'd just fold since I expect him to fire multiple barrels and it's going to be mighty hard to show down the best hand once he 3 bets the flop and fires 3 off.

^^I think we look too strong when we 4 bet the flop for him to continue with bluffs and would much rather call all 3 than 4 bet the flop right now since he's more likely to blast off with 89s on the turn or whatever than rip it in on the flop.  Again it depends on what you think of his $1/call $1/3b and normal bet amount ranges but i'm just going on info given.  That all said though I think just fold now or call once and c/f all future streets if you think he gives up on bluffs.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: pleno1 on January 23, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
c/c three streets is very very sexy.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: Rupert on January 23, 2011, 03:55:57 PM
we gonna win like $3 if we do that

man didn't even see that you didn't cbet.  You should def cbet


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: pleno1 on January 23, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
we gonna win like $3 if we do that

man didn't even see that you didn't cbet.  You should def cbet

Depends on player, I assume Todd checked because the guy likes to bet. If not its obv a mandatory bet


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: Rupert on January 23, 2011, 04:01:04 PM
Our flop betting range is going to be incredibly weak if we don't cbet aces as standard here.  Obviously i'm not saying we should always cbet aces but there's no real reason in OP not to.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: pleno1 on January 23, 2011, 04:40:57 PM
Our flop betting range is going to be incredibly weak if we don't cbet aces as standard here.  Obviously i'm not saying we should always cbet aces but there's no real reason in OP not to.

Against most players at 100nl, they don't fold this flop almost ever with their 3bet calling range.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: mondatoo on January 23, 2011, 05:08:41 PM
I cbet/shove the flop.

As played I can't see any reason why we'd just flat the $1 ?? I'd flat the 3bet and c/shove turn.If he clicks it back then I bet roughly 2/3 pot on river.

What was your thoughts on villain,do you think the $1 bet is a maybe a misclick or just he's bad.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: pleno1 on January 23, 2011, 05:13:31 PM
thing is the $1 isnt a stopper bet as he's in position and can check behind for free. its weird.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: mondatoo on January 23, 2011, 05:16:14 PM
thing is the $1 isnt a stopper bet as he's in position and can check behind for free. its weird.

Obv it's not a stopper bet. It's either a misclick or he's terribad.


Title: Re: NL100Hu AA oop in 3bet pot
Post by: toddswain on January 23, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
Nah my 3bets have been depolarised, but been no showdowns in 3bet pots so noway he can know this. He nots 4bet pre once so again no idea on his 4b range. I forgot to mention i 4bet him in a hand before where he peeled $26 pre, and i cbet with Q6 on K23 and he folded. Seems fairly fishy from the hands we've played. I didnt bet the flop for the reason, he never seems to do much when i cbet apart from fold, obv when i check and he makes it $1 im wishing i just lead flop. When he 3bet me i literally didnt know what to do, could have done any really, fold, 4bet/call, peel a turn, 4bet ship, just wondered what line people take with the info ive given