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Just a hand that I'm not totally 100% I should've called the river.

Blinds 100/200.

I have c17k, been fairly active, probably one of the most aggressive on my table, but doubled up about 10 minutes ago betting all streets of a Qd Qc 7c 5d Js with Ks Qs and got called down by Aspades 7s.

Villain has about 8.5k, is a live player but has been playing a fair few hands.

I open early position maybe UTG+2 or +3. to 550 with Ac Ad, villain flats in middle position, everyone else folds.

Flop: Th 9h 7h

I bet 700, he clicks back, I call.

Turn: Kd

I check, he bets 2,000, I think for a moment and call.

River: 9s

I check, he moves in for 4,725. I call? I think it's harder to fold without the Ahrt in my hand, as hands like Ahrt Kx are in his range, as is something like Kh Ts which could jam for value here, or am I looking at this wrong and should probably fold river (or even turn?)

fold.

Prob fold turn.

Theres more bluffs in his range or combo draws when he makes a normal raise on the flop, when he clicks it backed ur prob dead (or near enough) already.

id check flop fold turn and fold river

agreed

you react the same online to the click back?

how often are peole using click back as bluff on line?

it titls me hard when i have to give up to min raises on the flop.

Depending on you know the ol 'sick live reads' I might want to bet fold flop depending on what I think of his flop minraise range.

I would also prefer to check call the flop and see how he plays the hand out from there.

getting min raised is beyond any doubt one of the most tilting things that happens in poker

BACK RAISE

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ahh, the back raise. i love to hear that term, takes me back to a time when poker seemed magical.

Its a tough spot ;carlocitrone; . My decision on a flop would be based entirely on my opponent and the reads I have on him. However if this information was not available, I would prob call the min re-raise on the flop and re-evaluate my action on the turn...depending on what card comes next and how the opponent proceeds to my check.

But in this particular case, I would fold on the turn.

Folding turn, definitely folding river.

'live player' is almost never spazzing here

sorry but 'he clicks back'??

i have never seen that term like ever. does that mean min-raise?

born from the internet afaik - when facing a bet online the raise btn has the minimum raise amount set so if you click it before typing/sliding you min raise, hence.........click it back :)

Apart from when used by the completely awful players, click backs are pretty much always strong from average players (has always seemed to be the trend at DTD anyway).

I'm probably still calling the flop and re-awarding turn. Most likely check folding. Might sound like an awful line, but alot of the players at DTD that use minraises (without understanding in depth why), are either using it as a bluff and giving up turn, or they're huge.

I might be dropping down stakes too far here, as I know the GP was £100 buyin, but really, some of them are THAT bad. I didn't play it so I don't know the general ability range of the field

bink, this.

An indication of the ability of ome players in the GP

UTG is only caller of a late position raise to 3x PF (50/100 level) - both players check flop turn and river and boards is  6d 8d 8s 3c Th.
at which point it goes
UTG check
Bet 500
UTG raises to 2,000
Shove 6,700
call

UTG shows K 10 for top pair
well beaten by quad 8s

A few hands later UTG (now on Button) raises pre to 300 and gets two callers
Flop is  Aspades Tc Ts

BB checks, UTG bets 600
our candidate for player of the tournament insta-raises to 3,000
two very quick folds and he shows....   Td Th  !!!