Title: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Harry Demetriou on December 29, 2005, 05:26:25 PM OK I'll bite on this one seeing as how I've been betting on soccer for the past 30 years
My three main bets for the New Year Fixture list all on ther Asina Hcap Markets are: Aston Villa +0.75 gls Home to Arsenal at odds of 2.10+ Dundee Utd +1.5 gls away to Rangers at odds of 1.95+ Reading -0.5 gls away to Derby at odds of 2.00+ Fill your boots and don't come crying to me or try breaking my legs if they go wrong because I'll be on a flight out of the country the following day;-) Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Robert HM on December 29, 2005, 05:30:26 PM Harry, we are nothing if not patient. When will you be coming back 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Harry Demetriou on December 29, 2005, 05:38:33 PM On Feb 13th I shall return to London and be staying for 1 day before flying on to the USA 14 Feb and hopefully you will all have forgotten about breaking my legs by then;-)
Whether the soccer picks win or not I don't know but I certainly have had lumpy bets on all three as I make the true/fair hcaps; Aston Villa +0.21 gls Dundee Utd +0.77 gls Reading -0.91 gls Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Ironside on December 29, 2005, 06:41:12 PM On Feb 13th I shall return to London and be staying for 1 day before flying on to the USA 14 Feb and hopefully you will all have forgotten about breaking my legs by then;-) Whether the soccer picks win or not I don't know but I certainly have had lumpy bets on all three as I make the true/fair hcaps; Aston Villa +0.21 gls Dundee Utd +0.77 gls Reading -0.91 gls so you mean your missing the best poker gathering of the year then? Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Harry Demetriou on December 29, 2005, 07:27:29 PM Alas I shall be in sunnier (you know where that great big yellow warm circle dangles up high above in the sky) climates on the other side of the world.
.................amd I very much doubt I'll be thinking of any of you lot back home in these freezing conditions. (BTW I fully accept I am a very delicate southern softie when it comes to these arctic conditions when compared to you hardened eskimos north of the border). Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Rupert on December 30, 2005, 07:40:13 AM Cheers for the tips, i'm on on all 3
Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: henrik777 on December 30, 2005, 04:22:05 PM Dundee Utd have a good recent record against Rangers who are struggling anyway.
Reading are playing well so should be ok. Villa ??? Wouldn't back them with Ironsides money. Sandy Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Nem on December 30, 2005, 04:23:07 PM Could someone explain Asian Handicap betting?
Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Colchester Kev on December 30, 2005, 07:20:48 PM Could someone explain Asian Handicap betting? Basically you put a monster monster bet on, and if it looks like it is gonna go down they have someone at the match to blow up the generator so the floodlights fail and you get your money back :D Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Graham C on December 31, 2005, 12:11:43 AM Could someone explain Asian Handicap betting? Basically you put a monster monster bet on, and if it looks like it is gonna go down they have someone at the match to blow up the generator so the floodlights fail and you get your money back :D LOL :D Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Dingdell on December 31, 2005, 02:47:19 PM Could someone explain Asian Handicap betting? Basically you put a monster monster bet on, and if it looks like it is gonna go down they have someone at the match to blow up the generator so the floodlights fail and you get your money back :D Could that be arranged for the wpt? Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Rupert on December 31, 2005, 02:48:04 PM 1 down 2 to go!
Hope you dont mind me asking but i'm pretty interested... was wondering how you compile your odds, like which statistics you use etc? Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Nem on December 31, 2005, 02:49:15 PM Please could someone explain Asian Handicap football betting?
Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Dingdell on December 31, 2005, 02:50:41 PM Please could someone explain Asian Handicap football betting? Seriously - I think that is the real answer - I've read about it somewhere. Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Nem on December 31, 2005, 02:52:41 PM ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Dingdell on December 31, 2005, 02:53:38 PM Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Harry Demetriou on December 31, 2005, 09:30:11 PM Ok so I'm going to do a runner but I know that I will not be able to hide.
At least those of you with elephant like memories will only be justified in breaking one of my legs and not both but I have no excuses for costing blind followers of my soccer picks just under a 1pt loss today. As for how I do my odds lines I use a variety of statistical mehtods based essentially on league tables and a slant towards the more recent matches eg the last game result was more significant than the 2nd to last than the third to last etc etc using all a teams form to date and heavier emphasis on the last 6/8 matches (3 homes and 3 aways, 4 homes and 4 aways) and I also adjust for the strength of opposition that each side has played in those recent 6/8 matches. If I have any excuse at all it is that this is a very difficult time of year at which to bet as smaller squad teams suffer greatly compared to the larger ones who are better equipped with more higher calibre players in their squads to cope with 4 matches in 8/10 days. Also in the Premiership these days you also get weird distortions for team selections for those teams near the bottom. eg a relegation zone team may pick its second eleven to play away to Chelsea today knowing that in 3 days or next week they will be home to the bottom side so may want to save their players for that game and in effect give up any chance of any result away to a top of the table side away. (you get the idea). Anyway it's not as complex as it all sounds because I have it all computerised and the bottom line is that in todays intenet age you should never really lose as a pun ter. If you bet on Asian Hcaps you are effectively betting evens either side on a coin toss or at worst with global competition 2.00 one side and 1.90 the other or more usually 1.95 or more so you should break even or make a very small loss just betting blindly at random. With so little edge against you it then becomes much easier to give yourself a chance of winning at betting soccer. Makes me wonder why the bookies keep whining about how they can't make money with their 12% juice 3 way lines. Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Bryson on January 01, 2006, 09:30:31 PM If you to www.vcbet.com there is a "What is asian handicap bating?" link.
Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: Nem on January 01, 2006, 09:37:00 PM I can't see the link
Welcome to the forum BTW ;) Title: Re: New Years Eve Presents Post by: neeko on January 02, 2006, 01:20:40 PM In VC's bet rules they give a short explantion.
7) Asian Handicaps i) The Asian Line is a special type of handicap used for soccer matches. ii) Depending on the strength of each team, a handicap is issued for the game. This enables the odds for each side to be more similar, allowing for more competitive betting opportunities. |