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Apat structure 45 min clock,
Blinds 150/300 ra 25

Utg 22k
Mp around 11k
Bb around 8k

Utg opens to 700
Mp and bb flat
Flop t2t 2 spades
Bb checks
Utg c bets 1500
Mp raises to 3500
Bb folds
Utg makes it 8500
Mp shoved for 1900
Utg calls

Anyone guess the hands obviously anyone there don't give it away

Thanks
The fish

MP KQ UTG 88

MP = 33
UTG = JTs

You guys are way too nutty. I'll help out I was Utg and mp was from awop

UTG AKspades
MP - QT

AKs 99

Iron dunno why you are posting this?

If this hand is like my current cash form you'll have 22 and oppo will have TT

Assumed nutty was the reason for you posting it!

utg has 2 napkins

mp has 2 beer mats

sorry nutty should of read nitty

Both have pocket 10's

UTG AQss
MP AK

That's not a proper guess, but since you're posting this, there must be a reason?

You had TT, he had s slice of bread and peanut butter + jelly. River comes a slice of bread completing his PB&J sammich, scooping him the pot.

The classics are the best afterall ;)

Ok mp wakes up with a4o, should my 3b of gotten through? I was bluffing with a6o

mmmmmmm

I dont rele like the UTG play as a bluff tbh, you're not really repping anything,  Aspades Td maybe

but when he c/r the flop he him self is quite polarised to Tx (poss some nut spade combo's) so if you think he is bluffing enough Im much happier to just call down with  Aspades high rather than jam - as he should never ever be turning a better Ahigh or a small pair into a bluff as he has such a great bluff catcher himself

once he's c/r and then chked the turn I think ou could bet fold there for sure.

take back the turn bet - fold re-read OP and ur not deep enough

What turn bet?

Rage at this stage I was opening any 2 any position, mp awop guy was about only one playing back at me, most of the table were not putting a chip in without a monster, so there was plenty of free chips out there reason I played flop as I did was I didn't think he could put 20+bb  after my 3 bet without a ten, couldn't believe I was ahead when cards were turned even more shocked pot was split
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they all have pocket ironsides

cliffs : I dont like raising the flop when we have a decent bluff catcher and rep nothing vs a polarised range. I would flat and call/chk the turn

This obv makes a big difference to how the hand is played.

as described though is he ever c/r you without a TEN? what does he peel ur EP raise with a c/r on this flop, he never has an overpair, he never c/r a smaller pair (or at least i hope he doesnt lol) seems like it's either a bluff (which your ahead of) or he has a TEN.

The fact he has managed to spanner off with an Ahigh hand seems beyond terrible from him

I like your play up until the point where you make the 3-bet on the flop (although it is supposed to get through). However in an APAT he usually has a 10 here mate. Pretty standard in APAT at this stage.

On my table we had a player raising a few times each round. Eventually made a button raise to 1K, the BB who had been folding to him all day played back for the first time and reraised to about 3K. So the button shoves with Q-Jos, with effective stacks of 12K the BB obviously has KK and doubles up.

3-Bet bluffs on the flop and 4-Bet bluffs pre don't work at this stage of an APAT.

fyp

fold pre

I still dont see why we need to bluff with A high when oppo is polarised to TEN/NO TEN

two reasons

1) i was a little tipsy
2) i knew he didnt have a ten and thought it would get through

i was sick when he shoved thought he had to have the t
was esactic when i thought we were chopping was over the moon with the K turn 3 river to scoop

well that answers the question haha

i am known to make bluffs when i spot weakness when sober though
i still cant beleive he put in 23bbs at the end knowing i had to call for 6 bigs

My only thoughts is that here our villain seems to be polarised to either a TEN or an airball.

A high = ahead of airballs

I cant see people ever normally turning A high into a bluff here so if you think he's bluffing a decent % why not just call the flop

i honestly thought my hand was way behind anything
i honestly thought he could only continue in hand with a T
i honestly though he didnt have one of them
i honestly thought i could buy the pot

i thought wrong 4 times

if i thought he was bluffing best way to to win hand was to get him off i thought

what can he possibly be bluffing with that beats you?

I agree though a decent amount of the time he's gonna have some equity even when he's bluffing so could be a lot of merit to taking the pot down there and then if you have a super strong read

I still prefer a call though :) and I do realise this wasnt the point if the thread, sorry to derail :)

no your points are valid

i spent the whole wekend trying to work out why he shoved at the end with no FE and no hand

hands he could be bluffing with that i could get to fold 33-99 AK-AJ that was range i had him on all beating my A6 but foldable but then again if he is shoving with a4 maybe they werent foldable

watching everyone laughing at me as i had finally been caught bluffing in a big pot at i reluctnatly put the last 1900 in then the laugh on other foot when i was ahead and even bigger laugh on river

i just cant see how he can shove there knowing i have to call, unless he had read me for air (ok i was on air but not that weak )

oh yeah the play from him is bizzarre - or really sick lol if he's jamming for value !

hands like this are incredible tho :)