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I hope this reads well as I think this is my first hand post on here.

Live MTT - £20 rebuy (2 day event - Rebuys for day 1). We're into day 2 now. No more rebuys. 90 buyins, rebuys and addons.

20 runners, 17 remain, 5 paid. I know that sounds crazy but it's a social event rather than a casino based event. It does work quite well though.

Blinds 800-1600.

Hero stack 260,000.

Opponent stack 190,000.

2.25mil chips in play. Average stack is ~130,000 but realistically there are a few players over 200,000 and quite a few on less than 90,000.

My image is loose aggressive I would think and I have played most pots at the end of previous day and most on day two as in my eyes I have a perfect seat draw as most of the players to my left are passive tight. They've been peeling flops but not really following it up if they miss. Opponent is fishy, very active, likes calling a lot pre-flop, frequent bluffer from several hands shown. (This is off of Tighty's template and couldn't describe him better lol)

Hero is mid position and raises to 3,800 with Ks 7h, cut off calls and opponent on the button flat calls. He plays every button nearly. Blinds fold.

Flop - Qs 4s 7d (Pot: 13,800)

Hero bets 6,800, cut off folds, button calls.

Turn  -  Qs 4s 7d - Ts (Pot: 27,400)

Hero checks, opponent checks (this threw me).

River - Qs 4s 7d - Ts - 6s (Pot: 27,400)

Hero bets 13,800 (Pot: 41,200). Opponent is all in for around ~160,000 more!!

FWIW I think I'm value betting against a set at this point. As he checked the spade on the turn, I felt like he might be checking a lot for pot control or to see if the board pairs on the river.

Call or fold? What do you make of the play so far and what do you think of the over pot shove by the opponent?

Thanks,

Paul.

Raise pre is fine, flop bet is fine (maybe a bit small TBH but OK)...his check on the turn makes me think he has a made flush more than anything else, when I put that against his river shove.

On the river, well he could have the Ace here and could not as you can only call with 2 cards (the nuts or the K) and odds are you don't have either so for him it's a decent spot to try something like this.

I call here...and then grind my 70k stack back up to average when he flips the Ace :)

snap it off.

yeh call vs villain as described. this is definitely a fold pre imo. you say villain never folds his button, why are you raising with K7? Is it because of the players to your left who you think will fold the flop if they miss? I don't like it.

Also, an entire days worth of rebuys?!?! wtf, 2day event with 20runners?! never heard nething so bizarre!

sounds great though, doesn't it? an entire day's worth of rebuys?

haha not so sure...

I have been making lots of these 2.5 x pre flop raises and leading flops and taking them down. For the length this game is running I felt it was profitable due to the fact he was playing very passive tight.

Everyone I speak to about this game questions the viability of it, and probably rightly so. However, it runs lovely (perhaps a little crazy at the start). We really enjoy it and play a similar game in the summer also.

you said he was very active and a frequent bluffer? now he is passive tight?

Could be expensive, i guess :) £20 rebuy for an entire day...surprised there aren't more than 90 rebuys and add-ons. what's the starting stack?

Yeah I suppose this doesn't really make sense. What I mean is that he's been playing pots in position against me as I think he knows that I obviously haven't got a hand all the time. I've been mixing it up against him a bit also though. I haven't bet every single flop so there have been a few spots where I have picked off his bluffs when he seemed to think I'm weak. Not always airballs but 2nd pair and missed draw, A high type bluffs.

25,000 starting stack. Originally we set-up the structure for the social aspect. We wanted to give the players a chance to be in it for the full first day one but also a decent stack so that the rebuys didn't go crazy. If you take off the buyins and addons, there were 50 rebuys over 9.5 hours. Some more than others obviously. On average I think most people had 3-4 buyins. Others needed 6-7. It's also a good way to get players on a smaller budget in. We had a few players that played because they thought they could get away with 2-3 buyins. If we'd have said, "right guys, £150 F/O" we probably wouldn't have gotten the same numbers.

We do a similar event for only 10 in the summer outside and that is £50 rebuys, deepstacked again but outside in the sunshine! As I've said before it's purely for the social aspect but makes a couple of fun and interesting days. I really would recommend it!! Drinking throughout and after is a condition of play! :)

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I am def calling here, firstly because he can't take you out of the game and secondly cos you have a good opportunity to becoming a chip leader and hopefully winning the game:) It's just a cooler if he has  Aspades

25k starting stack £20 full day rebuy?..Madness!

Great stuff.

BTW, you called right?

Yeah, let us know what happened?? I hope you took it down:)

not sure about pre
bet more on river, fold to raise. it's not like he is doing this with the js, 9s or bluffing particularly often when shoving imho

I didn't think very long to be honest. As soon as I knew I would have a grinding stack I called for him to show the nuts (Aspades 4s). I suppose that was inevitable having posted the hand but I was curious to see other peoples opinion on the situation. I honestly expected him to show up with either something like Js Kh, Js Td or Qh Qd something to that effect.

Thanks for the responses though.

Paul.

UNLUCKY!!!

was the opponent inclined to walk around the pub carrying a bag of piss ? is so I would have folded ;)

tbh knowing the game and the players I prob would have called, he overbet pushes so often, I lost most of my stack to the same player later on when he pushed 50x BB and I called with AK, his JJ was far better than I expected

the player in question plays solely on bullying and getting huge bets in first, he is pretty 1 dimensional in his play

Did the OP finally get knocked out by massively over rating his pocket queens and getting it all in preflop verses the final winners hugely dominant QK suited!

Tosser! And oh, Welcome!  :hello:

would fold pre, especially with the reads you gave on them not folding pre

would bet more on river initially and sigh/lol fold river to the shove i think. would expect him to show you the bare Js 0% of the time ?

Pretty clear fold for me, also fold pre. Had seen results pre posting but thought fold before i saw them

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Is it just the K7os you fold or are you folding most hands pre flop against my read? I thought the fact that he was calling pre in position a lot of and folding / bluffing regularly on the flop was making it profitable. I know he's going to turn up with a hand eventually but I was getting away with it so often, I thought it was good to continue with it. I must have been opening 80-90% from MP3, CO, and button a no one was particularly having a go back at me. In fact in all of this time I don't think I got 3 bet once. The guy on my immediate left just kept looking at me, folding and shaking his head.

can't remember who was on your left ?

im confused. are they folding a lot to cbets or are they bluffing you a lot? if they are folding a lot then obv play more hands. if they are bluffing you a lot then id be playing tighter so that im going to war with stronger hands.

lot of hands to open with pre, dunno abou K7o though