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Title: check behind or value bet? Post by: Ironside on February 13, 2011, 08:11:09 PM ok its a $1r treble turbo and rebuys are still available with a 30k add on
so it doesnt really matter but this is type of hand has been worring me on other tournies i've got show down value and dont really want to bet fold but would checking behind be missing value? PokerStars Game #57611460709: Tournament #361345170, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (150/300) - 2011/02/13 20:06:14 WET [2011/02/13 15:06:14 ET] Table '361345170 432' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Ironside (14900 in chips) Seat 2: robinhoed666 (6670 in chips) Seat 3: eflashi (5515 in chips) Seat 4: Max Extract (8739 in chips) Seat 5: jsav mik (20850 in chips) Seat 6: Thalin II (4910 in chips) Seat 7: A$hmoday (6270 in chips) Seat 8: DTK99584 (2900 in chips) Seat 9: Grablje (18485 in chips) Ironside: posts the ante 30 robinhoed666: posts the ante 30 eflashi: posts the ante 30 Max Extract: posts the ante 30 jsav mik: posts the ante 30 Thalin II: posts the ante 30 A$hmoday: posts the ante 30 DTK99584: posts the ante 30 Grablje: posts the ante 30 Max Extract: posts small blind 150 jsav mik: posts big blind 300 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Ironside [Ts Th] Thalin II: folds A$hmoday: folds DTK99584: folds Grablje: folds Ironside: raises 400 to 700 robinhoed666: calls 700 eflashi: folds Max Extract: folds jsav mik: calls 400 *** FLOP *** [Ks 5s Kh] jsav mik: checks Ironside: bets 1200 robinhoed666: folds jsav mik: calls 1200 *** TURN *** [Ks 5s Kh] [2d] jsav mik: checks Ironside: bets 2700 jsav mik: calls 2700 *** RIVER *** [Ks 5s Kh 2d] [9d] jsav mik: checks Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: redarmi on February 13, 2011, 08:40:30 PM I check.....not much worse is calling at this point....couple of worse pairs.
Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: George2Loose on February 13, 2011, 08:43:46 PM DEFFO value bet
Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: outragous76 on February 13, 2011, 08:46:53 PM Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: pleno1 on February 13, 2011, 08:54:10 PM 4875
Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: Ironside on February 13, 2011, 09:32:02 PM ty
made it 3600 he called 88 just checking it was std Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: redarmi on February 14, 2011, 12:42:05 AM I genuinely respect the pha of those that have commented on this so can someone explain value betting this to me?? What are we expecting him to call with here that we are beating??? The only hands I can see calling here are 66,77 and 88. Do you disagree? and if you agree do they represent a big enough part of his range to justify a call here? I can see how they are a big part of his range but surely not enough to justify the call....maybe I am just a bit too notty but I genuinely don't get this.
Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: Rupert on February 14, 2011, 08:13:07 AM I'd probs go for flop and river, all 3 is pushing a bit thin
Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: SuuPRlim on February 14, 2011, 02:45:36 PM I think we have the best hand almost always, but agree he's not got many hands that can call, like you say 66/77/88 or a hand that involves the 9s.
Must be fine to bet, as sometimes he calls with these, once in a blue mooon he fnids a King and most of the time he folds. prolly a decent spot to go for some thin value cos the board has mega bricked off...agree bet small though I dont think in the long run you'll see much difference between the two options, chkig back cant ever be a mistake imo, nor can betting. Title: Re: check behind or value bet? Post by: George2Loose on February 14, 2011, 02:58:29 PM If you have a bad image these spots to get thin value are golden
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