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Title: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: MC on February 22, 2011, 08:22:44 AM
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2551/tournament3671903041447.png)

Again an 18-man FT, now ITM.
Note that with a 40%, 30%, 20%, 10% payout structure, the jump from 4th to 3rd is the biggest leap.

Again one that you can't get SNG Wiz to like, but I feel like we have no real choice but to shove here? We're shoving on the right person we need chips from. If it gets through, we have a valid shot of doing well in this SNG, if we fold it feels like we're playing for 3rd. Also, if we fold and get shoved on on our bb which is usually the case, we lose all our fold equity.

What kind of range should we be shoving here? Do K3os, J6os, 95s, make the cut?


PokerStars Game #58036180510: Tournament #367190304, $35+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2011/02/21 14:47:24 WET [2011/02/21 9:47:24 ET]
Table '367190304 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: GUUS0007 (8167 in chips)
Seat 2: BornSurvivor (9314 in chips)
Seat 3: B00mslang (4689 in chips)
Seat 4: epitomised (4830 in chips)
GUUS0007: posts the ante 75
BornSurvivor: posts the ante 75
B00mslang: posts the ante 75
epitomised: posts the ante 75
BornSurvivor: posts small blind 600
B00mslang: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [Jc 5c]
epitomised: raises 3000 to 4200
GUUS0007: folds
BornSurvivor: folds
B00mslang: calls 3000
*** FLOP *** [Js 8h Kd]
B00mslang: checks
epitomised: bets 555 and is all-in
B00mslang: calls 414 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (141) returned to epitomised
*** TURN *** [Js 8h Kd] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Js 8h Kd Kh] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
B00mslang: shows [Ks Qd] (three of a kind, Kings)
epitomised: shows [Jc 5c] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
B00mslang collected 10128 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10128 | Rake 0
Board [Js 8h Kd Kh Ah]
Seat 1: GUUS0007 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BornSurvivor (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: B00mslang (big blind) showed [Ks Qd] and won (10128) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: epitomised showed [Jc 5c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 22, 2011, 08:43:47 AM
doesnt bb call superwide here? as in close to nearly any 2? as he knows he no longer has FE if he folds, and if theres anyone at the table he wants to take chips from its you.


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: MC on February 22, 2011, 08:48:17 AM
doesnt bb call superwide here? as in close to nearly any 2? as he knows he no longer has FE if he folds, and if theres anyone at the table he wants to take chips from its you.

We can expect him to call fairly wide but definitely not any two.


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: outragous76 on February 22, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
I do a fold to allow the sb to ship on the bb


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
I do a fold to allow the sb to ship on the bb

Yeah, probs fold this as well. Calla bit wider.


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: pleno1 on February 22, 2011, 03:57:36 PM
folddddd it.


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: DMorgan on February 23, 2011, 12:43:12 PM
Snap jamming this, could think about folding if we're not in last place. The only thing that could make it close is that I recognise the name of the guy in the BB so I'm not jamming any 2 but J5s I'd jam


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 23, 2011, 04:14:51 PM
how does the fact the blinds are going up in less than 2minutes affect the decision?


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: pokerfan on February 23, 2011, 06:11:54 PM
how does the fact the blinds are going up in less than 2minutes affect the decision?
It doesn`t.


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: MC on February 23, 2011, 07:23:55 PM
how does the fact the blinds are going up in less than 2minutes affect the decision?

It does a little, more likely to jam if the blinds are going up soon.


Title: Re: Shortstacked ITM spot.
Post by: alexicek on February 26, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
I think its a fair push. the medium stacks will often call you tight enough. the bb should be calling real wide but most people do not call wide enough. j5s still has decent enough equity if called. Its between u and the bb to fight it out anyways
if you have a read that the big stacks might want to get frisky with you then its prolly not worth the risk