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Title: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 04:16:43 PM First 15 mins of Virgin $10 4pm tourney....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hand #164558917 at table: Texas Holdem Started: Fri Dec 30 16:12:03 2005 seajay is at seat 1 with 1470.00 Hallibud1 is at seat 2 with 2800.00 ace andy 1 is at seat 3 with 1940.00 rivergott is at seat 4 with 2420.00 pokas=n1 is at seat 5 with 1220.00 habi6 is at seat 6 with 1370.00 igroznyj is at seat 7 with 1580.00 cenkyb is at seat 8 with 1180.00 mikkyT2005 is at seat 9 with 1440.00 themob34 is at seat 10 with 1970.00 Hallibud1 posts the large blind 20.00 seajay posts the small blind 10.00 seajay: --, -- Hallibud1: --, -- ace andy 1: --, -- rivergott: --, -- pokas=n1: --, -- habi6: --, -- igroznyj: --, -- cenkyb: --, -- mikkyT2005: Kc, Kd themob34: --, -- Pre-flop: ace andy 1: Fold rivergott: Call 20.00 pokas=n1: Call 20.00 habi6: Call 20.00 igroznyj: Call 20.00 cenkyb: Call 20.00 mikkyT2005: Raise 100.00 themob34: Call 100.00 seajay: Fold Hallibud1: Raise 240.00 rivergott: Call 240.00 pokas=n1: Fold habi6: Call 240.00 igroznyj: Fold cenkyb: Fold mikkyT2005: All in themob34: Fold Hallibud1: Call 1440.00 rivergott: Fold habi6: All in Showdown: Hallibud1 shows: Kh, Tc (high card, King) habi6 shows: Js, Qc (high card, Queen) mikkyT2005 shows: Kc, Kd (a pair of Kings) Flop (Board: Ks, 9c, Qd): Turn (Board: Ks, 9c, Qd, Ad): River (Board: Ks, 9c, Qd, Ad, Jd): Hallibud1 shows: Kh, Tc (ace high straight) Sidepot 2: Hallibud1 wins the pot of 140 with ace high straight Mainpot: Hallibud1 wins the pot of 4520 with ace high straight (0.00 rake were taken for this hand) Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: Nem on December 30, 2005, 04:24:13 PM No
Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: thetank on December 30, 2005, 04:24:49 PM lmao, what were you just telling newmanseye on the other thread?
Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: sharpy on December 30, 2005, 04:25:41 PM No I would have done the same.....What the hell were those two muppets doing calling with crap anyway Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 04:27:55 PM lmao, what were you just telling newmanseye on the other thread? I wanted other opinions. The fish with K10 is now tournament chip leader, he's jsut done the same thing again. My bet is he will be out soon (one can but hope). Not playing until 5pm now as I feel tilty. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: thetank on December 30, 2005, 04:32:12 PM I wanted other opinions. I would have flat called the kings and folded unless I made trips on the flop. ;chieften; thwack Not playing until 5pm now as I feel tilty. Good man, hard thing to do sometimes. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 04:35:16 PM I wanted other opinions. I would have flat called the kings and folded unless I made trips on the flop. No you wouldn't. Pre flop is not a time to be flat calling with 7 limpers all limping for 240. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: thetank on December 30, 2005, 04:36:06 PM Ok, without being facetious, I would have made the initial raise bigger than 100. I want my Kings all-in against one opponent in a tournament.
There's 5 limpers in front of you, I'd make it 8/9 times BB to play. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: thetank on December 30, 2005, 04:36:44 PM I would have flat called the kings and folded unless I made trips on the flop. Just to be clear, I was joking. Dang written word. My point is you got it all-in with the best of it, can't hope for much more than that. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 04:37:22 PM Thought you where jokin, just had to make sure.
Okay, "8/9 times BB" is commited to memory. Cheers tank. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: thetank on December 30, 2005, 04:39:24 PM Not always, just with that many limpers, it seems necessary to put in a big raise. As I say, you're shooting for the ideal tournament scenario of being all-in pre-flop against one opponent with your KK. (Ideal so long as they've not got AA)
Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: Nem on December 30, 2005, 04:41:13 PM ALLLLLLLLLLL IN MIKKY Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 04:43:03 PM Only if my name was Billy.
Anyway, I went all in second time around when the bet was 200 and they still all called :D Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: 12barblues on December 30, 2005, 05:23:42 PM In my experience the players on Virgin, at the lower stakes at least, will call with almost anything for up to 10/15% of their stack in the early stages of STT's and MTT's.
If you want to gamble, go ahead and raise to 4 or 5 times the BB. If you want only one or two callers, the raise needs to be 10 x BB! Maybe even more with all those limpers in front of you. Bizarre, but true in my experience. I've made a standard a raise with JJ and had seven callers, i.e. everyone who hadn't already folded. In another instance, I was in the BB for the first hand of the tournament with AK and had nine (!) limpers before I acted. My all in was called in three places. You were lucky someone re-raised to enable you to go all in. Otherwise you would have had 8 callers! Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 05:25:55 PM I was tooing and froing between a $30 STT where nobody was calling anything above a 4x BB raise, hence the first small raise :)
Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: Newmanseye on December 30, 2005, 06:54:54 PM you did bugger all wrong as far as I can see, if anything when these mugs turn over the cards I would have thrown a party, But you were unlucky.
Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: Teacake on December 30, 2005, 07:26:30 PM Thats the sort of hand thats made me pack in Virgin, the skill/luck ratio is incredible. ;technophobe;
Initially my hands were holding up but it didnt last long. The standard is the worst I have encountered online which should be a good thing but having 3/4 fish on a table is different from having 7/8, it makes it almost impossible. The SnG structure is garbage as it turns into a crapshoot after about 30 hands cos of the slow software. BTW it didnt matter how you played it they were all coming with you. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: mikkyT on December 30, 2005, 07:34:05 PM True... I guess they where coming along anyway. But I've had good experience with virgin lately, especially in the $20/$30 MTTs, cashing in at least one every day for the last week giving me a nice sizable roll to play $30 and $50 STTs. But, Im fairing badly in the STTs. Although today I've recouped my busted MTT fees from STTs so its not all bad, but no profit ::)
My problem with the boss network is not the software - the speed has been fine for a while now, but the fact theres just not enough middle stake players or games. Most people are happy to play at $3-$5 and whilst that was the case with me a month ago when I couldn't be arsed playing online, I've now got a couple of thousand sitting there and the thought of earning another $10-$25 is a bit boring :D That, and theres not enough tourneys either. 1 an hour and most are small entry fees. I think I'll stay for a little while, then I'll whack some of the money accross to stars. Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: thetank on December 30, 2005, 09:41:08 PM That, and theres not enough tourneys either. 1 an hour and most are small entry fees. I think I'll stay for a little while, then I'll whack some of the money accross to stars. Cracking plan, why wait? Title: Re: Would you have played this differently? Post by: Nem on December 30, 2005, 09:46:05 PM Untill they have Poker managers, Hand histories notes etc... I would whack all the money into Stars asap.
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