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think this may be the first time ive posted here but this hand got me thinking about AA so early in a comp and if it makes a difference how people play them.its the vegas team comp and i started with 10800

ok so im on the button with AA been 1 limper for 50 i make it 225 bb calls so does limper
flop 6 6 10 check check i bet 500 bb folds limper calls at this point im thinking maybe he has either a 10 or 77 99
turn  2 check i bet 1000 tank call i still think im ahead
river 8 he tanks then bets 3200 now i dont really like it but call anyway as i had put him on the hands i mentioned he shows quads lol nice hand

just want to know if most people fold there?

this early, with presumably no knowledge of the player and thus he could be competent or not I call.

If he checks his quads are you firing again?

Never really folding. Pretty sure his value range is wider than quads OTR. Only hand I'm really worried about is 88 that got there, other than that there's a bunch of 10x combos we beat, every PP combo that isn't quads/house and all his bluffs (obv a spewy line and prob never has air).

Just recalced the pot and he bets virtually full pot OTR. Wish you hadn't put results on :P. My head screams this line is either quads, house or air (as above), with no middle range. I
Still can't fold on the basis someone only ever has that range though I guess.

As Tighty says, what do you do if he checks river?

Yes Would have bet 2400

always calling Fran

I think I check back the turn a lot here

I thought that initially, but then realised that in real life I never do

Now I've mentioned it was a team comp what I didn't mention was everyone started with different chips most people had between 10k and 13k.I didn't take this into account at the time because I'd not play a comp like this before and in my head I'm just playing like I do every comp where everyone starts with the same chips.
It wasnt untill a few hands later that I looked at his player card and saw he started comp with 6.5k chips which was by far the shortest on the table.
So I think if I had payed attention I may have folded the river knowing he has only left himself just over 1k in chips

Do you still call if you had known this?

what view do u take on the river if you check turn? I nearly did check but my head just told me I'm ahead lol good read Fran

check the turn 100% of the time here


ck call turn, check fold river

he was first to act

If the river is checked to me I definitely value bet obv

Was gonna suggest checking turn but I'm pretty sure I'd get greedy and try and get 3 streets. Your obv paying a river bet though right?

sorry

check turn, call river

Jk - yes if I've checked turn I'm always calling river if bet into.

Mehhhh at checking the turn, giving villain far too much credit for being comptent. He has limped/called pre, how many hands that beat us compared to those we beat, loads more we beat and can get value from.

Better than letting a k roll of the river and villain giving up on most of his range. The deuce ball on the turn is like a dream card against a non thinking opponent.

yer, never checking turn for above reason.

in live poker on a paired board with several callers pre (early) you will lose more than you will win long term by going for 3 streets with AA imo

Fran also has a short starting stack in this particular comp and you need 4 high finishes to earn points so I'd say a bit of caution and checking back turn is definitely better than betting it.

Also, if live donko wants to raise a10 or jj etc when we bet the turn we may have to fold and checking here means we're not bluffable rly.

Check turn. Highly doubt we are getting 3 streets of value on a paired board. If he has got air it also gives him a chance to bluff it. If he has something reasonable then we call and win if he bets. Otherwise we value bet. If he bets and has it then we've at least kept the pot smaller. Op put villain on a range of hands. None of these included a 6 - why?