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Title: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: George2Loose on March 04, 2011, 02:36:27 AM
100$ 6 mox comp. I have won 5 hands in the row. Villian has just moved to table. He's min raise couple of times. nothing too out of line. What do we do on the river here? Sizing on turn/betting on turn ok? Best default line- bet/fold bet/call check/call check/fold?

For info will copy previous hands in next post:

PokerStars Game #58617835849: Tournament #409010854, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/03/04 2:17:38 WET [2011/03/03 21:17:38 ET]
Table '409010854 17' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: uaredead lol (3298 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (27592 in chips)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (14937 in chips)
Seat 4: picsou691 (14169 in chips)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (738 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: J@e29 (28032 in chips)
uaredead lol: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts the ante 50
picsou691: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts small blind 200
anouar1987: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [As Qd]
picsou691: folds
Panchoxx: folds
J@e29: folds
uaredead lol: folds
George2Loose: raises 650 to 1050
anouar1987: calls 650
*** FLOP *** [Ac 7h Jh]
George2Loose: bets 1275
anouar1987: calls 1275
*** TURN *** [Ac 7h Jh] [Js]
George2Loose: bets 2175
anouar1987: calls 2175
*** RIVER *** [Ac 7h Jh Js] [4s]
George2Loose:


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: George2Loose on March 04, 2011, 02:38:38 AM
PokerStars Game #58617716701: Tournament #409010854, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/03/04 2:14:20 WET [2011/03/03 21:14:20 ET]
Table '409010854 17' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: uaredead lol (4148 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (19237 in chips)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (16587 in chips)
Seat 4: jpmetalman (4505 in chips)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (1188 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: J@e29 (28882 in chips)
uaredead lol: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts the ante 50
jpmetalman: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts small blind 200
anouar1987: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ x x ]
jpmetalman: folds
Panchoxx: folds
J@e29: folds
uaredead lol: folds
George2Loose: raises 650 to 1050
anouar1987: folds
Uncalled bet (650) returned to George2Loose
George2Loose collected 1100 from pot
George2Loose: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1100 | Rake 0
Seat 1: uaredead lol (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: George2Loose (small blind) collected (1100)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: jpmetalman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Panchoxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: J@e29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PokerStars Game #58617735648: Tournament #409010854, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/03/04 2:14:51 WET [2011/03/03 21:14:51 ET]
Table '409010854 17' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: uaredead lol (4098 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (19887 in chips)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (16137 in chips)
Seat 4: jpmetalman (4455 in chips)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (1138 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: J@e29 (28832 in chips)
uaredead lol: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts the ante 50
jpmetalman: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts small blind 200
jpmetalman: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [Qh Ah]
Panchoxx: folds
J@e29: folds
uaredead lol: folds
George2Loose: raises 575 to 975
anouar1987: folds
jpmetalman: raises 3430 to 4405 and is all-in
George2Loose: calls 3430
*** FLOP *** [2h 8h As]
*** TURN *** [2h 8h As] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [2h 8h As Jh] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jpmetalman: shows [4c Qc] (high card Ace)
George2Loose: shows [Qh Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
George2Loose collected 9310 from pot
jpmetalman finished the tournament in 65th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9310 | Rake 0
Board [2h 8h As Jh 3h]
Seat 1: uaredead lol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: George2Loose (button) showed [Qh Ah] and won (9310) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: anouar1987 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: jpmetalman (big blind) showed [4c Qc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: Panchoxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: J@e29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PokerStars Game #58617766257: Tournament #409010854, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/03/04 2:15:42 WET [2011/03/03 21:15:42 ET]
Table '409010854 17' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: uaredead lol (4048 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (24742 in chips)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (15887 in chips)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (1088 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: J@e29 (28782 in chips)
uaredead lol: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts small blind 200
J@e29: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [x x]
uaredead lol: folds
George2Loose: raises 575 to 975
anouar1987: folds
Panchoxx: folds
J@e29: folds
Uncalled bet (575) returned to George2Loose
George2Loose collected 1250 from pot
George2Loose: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: uaredead lol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: George2Loose collected (1250)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: J@e29 (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #58617790499: Tournament #409010854, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/03/04 2:16:22 WET [2011/03/03 21:16:22 ET]
Table '409010854 17' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: uaredead lol (3998 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (25542 in chips)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (15837 in chips)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (838 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: J@e29 (28332 in chips)
uaredead lol: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts small blind 200
uaredead lol: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [x x]
George2Loose: raises 575 to 975
anouar1987: folds
Panchoxx: folds
J@e29: folds
uaredead lol: folds
Uncalled bet (575) returned to George2Loose
George2Loose collected 1250 from pot
George2Loose: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: uaredead lol (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: George2Loose collected (1250)
Seat 3: anouar1987 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: J@e29 (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #58617807838: Tournament #409010854, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/03/04 2:16:51 WET [2011/03/03 21:16:51 ET]
Table '409010854 17' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: uaredead lol (3548 in chips)
Seat 2: George2Loose (26342 in chips)
Seat 3: anouar1987 (15787 in chips)
Seat 4: picsou691 (14219 in chips)
Seat 5: Panchoxx (788 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: J@e29 (28082 in chips)
uaredead lol: posts the ante 50
George2Loose: posts the ante 50
anouar1987: posts the ante 50
picsou691: posts the ante 50
Panchoxx: posts the ante 50
J@e29: posts the ante 50
uaredead lol: posts small blind 200
George2Loose: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [x x]
anouar1987: raises 400 to 800
picsou691: folds
Panchoxx: folds
J@e29: folds
uaredead lol: folds
George2Loose: raises 1975 to 2775
anouar1987: folds
Uncalled bet (1975) returned to George2Loose
George2Loose collected 2100 from pot
George2Loose: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2100 | Rake 0
Seat 1: uaredead lol (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: George2Loose (big blind) collected (2100)
Seat 3: anouar1987 folded before Flop
Seat 4: picsou691 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Panchoxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: J@e29 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: BoB with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: Cf on March 04, 2011, 02:39:10 AM
Don't see why this is best of blonde tbh...


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: George2Loose on March 04, 2011, 02:41:45 AM
Don't see why this is best of blonde tbh...

eh?


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: Cf on March 04, 2011, 02:54:48 AM
Don't see why this is best of blonde tbh...

eh?

Well you changed the title now!


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: cambridgealex on March 04, 2011, 03:43:33 AM
I'd bet more like 2500 on the turn. I think bet/fold is the best line here. Around 3200.


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: pleno1 on March 04, 2011, 09:41:46 AM
bet bigger turn, jam river?


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 04, 2011, 12:13:10 PM
if villains a reg we defo cant bet three for value here

if he's a rando then bet away!


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: Whollyflush on March 04, 2011, 04:09:19 PM
I think i prefer c/c the turn bvb , as played i think you can b/f the river.


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: George2Loose on March 04, 2011, 04:44:37 PM
C/c turn and river jp?


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: Whollyflush on March 04, 2011, 06:04:26 PM
C/c turn and river jp?

yea bvb it gives him a chance to gift us chips with busted weak FD's and gutterballs. When you bet the turn and he peels again, we can discount alot of bluffs in his range (unlikely to double float if he has no reads on you). As played i'd b/f river but don't think c/f is too bad considering most are likely to check behind a weak ace here.


Title: Re: Blind on blind with top pair on river- loose image
Post by: TommyD on March 04, 2011, 06:08:41 PM
C/C river IMO.  Against a random I'd be worried about the loose J but I'd rather let him try to shove with a busted flush draw, the +EV we get from that off set's calling off when we are behind.

I don't think B/F is an option here.  9400 in the pot and villain has just over 10k.  What amount are we betting on the river that we don't have to call a shove?